Skip to comments.Issa just allowed Louis Lerner to waive her fifth amendment rights!
Posted on 05/22/2013 7:33:36 AM PDT by fooman
I do not understand why she was not made to answer every question. And why has Congress not subpoenaed her computer (home and office)?
They're pretty much opposite of each other.
If he ASSERTED her Fith Ammendment Rights then Issa has no choice on whether or not to “allow” them.
She has that right.
But I am guessing it means fireworks to come
The GOP doesn’t even know how to use her as a campaign issue.
Bonehead must have told Issa to lay off her. Disgusting.
She’s allowed to plead the 5th. Nothing Issa can do about it. What did you think he would do, go down and punch her in the face?
He didn’t waive it yet. He stated he was going to look into it.
In my mind a good move. It would force to talk or go to jail for not cooperating.
She read a statement and then said she wouldn’t answer any questions. She was about to be dismissed then Trey Gowdy called a point of order and said she waived her 5th amendment rights by telling her side. She was dismissed subject to recall while the committed looks into whether she can do that legally.
No fireworks. Issa allowed her to make a statement, then released her.
I am a little worried by your shock that she was “allowed” to use her Fifth Ammendment Rights- and your comment that she should be “forced” to answer...
Disgusting to say the least! I had to turn it off after that...
The way the 5th works...if you answer ONE question you have to answer them all...
is she getting to choose ???
Sic her Issa !!!
Ask her a few questions and make her plead the fifth on camera. That’s what you can do.
I had hoped that she would be asked maybe a dozen or two dozen questions, and she would have had to plead the 5th each and every time like I’ve seen many times in my lifetime on Capitol Hill. I wanted her to have to say it for EVERY question. On the record. Let the American people watch & see how corrupt the IRS is on live tv.
They let her off way too easy this morning in my opinion.
“She read a statement and then said she wouldnt answer any questions. She was about to be dismissed then Trey Gowdy called a point of order and said she waived her 5th amendment rights by telling her side. She was dismissed subject to recall while the committed looks into whether she can do that legally.”
She either has a really stupid lawyer or a smart one.
Seems like you could be right in the middle of testifying and then you could plead the 5th, doesn’t it?
Must be Lois’ husband.
OK now THAT makes sense now...
You cannot tell your side of the story and then be allowed to clam up when the other side is told, although I a wary of this point.
If you lie and then are caught in it, you still should have the right not to be forced to testify against yourself. The proof that you lied is testimony enough against you.
Ask her a BUNCH of rhetorical questions and get her on record, on camera, pleading the 5th on every one of them.
More scenes we'd like to see.
Actually an Executive Order by Ike calls for her firing if someone in her position pleads the 5th.
Shes allowed to plead the 5th. Nothing Issa can do about it. What did you think he would do, go down and punch her in the face?
Just repeatedly ask her “embarassing” questions such as “Has anyone from the Obama administration coordinated with you for the targeting of Tea Party organizations”.
Let her assert her right against self-incrimination over and over and over again. The Democrats certainly would have done that had the shoe been on the other foot.
But the Republican? Nah, the Republicans want to be “nice”.
I'm no lawyer, but I believe that if a witness is given immunity from prosecution, then she can be forced to answer.
Of course I agree with the fifth amendment, just not Ms Lerner abusing it.
She could say ‘five’ to each question. Also, she could be asked about her abuses as a FEC official asking about the content of Oliver North’s prayers as reported by the weekly standard.
Boehner, as usual, is back on his heels & not leading. Rest assured that he is working some back room deal to help himself and sell US out.
A man of principle, a leader of action, he is neither.
I think they will try to turn her. It’s obvious these people were acting on orders from the top, and now they are being hung out to dry, just like Maxwell from the State Dept. Sooner or later some of these folks will turn against the administration, like Maxwell, God Bless him, already has. Now if only the Generals had the balls to do the same thing I might even have faith in the military again.
Thank you. Exactly.
I’m no lawyer, but I believe that if a witness is given immunity from prosecution, then she can be forced to answer.
Correct—and we don’t want to have this DIRTY, CORRUPT woman be given immunity.
I think they will indict her soon
Thanks for the education. Where are the demands for firing?
Where is the outrage?
Gowdy’s definitely one of the good guys.
I wonder whom Issa will consult with about Gowdy’s point of order?
If you are not going to get answers, at least get some campaign uses out
of it. The GOP did neither.
The republicants are in on the fix.
Nothing will come of this. Nothing.
She might have that right...but think about how terrible this is.
The IRS is supposed to be subject to congressional oversight...yet she refuses to answer questions. She obviously doesn’t believe she works ‘for’ the people.
Boehner should say that’s it, if the IRS won’t answer questions of congress, their funding is cut off.
She cannot plead the 5th on testimony already given.......
Missy...stay away from Marcy Park.
I heard an old speech...She does exactly as she's told....no questions asked...is what I got out of it.
If she invokes the 5th just WHAT would you have Issa do, beat the crap/truth outta her(that’s MY job)?
She can be given immunity from prosecution if she tells the truth and spills the beans on higher ups. If she lies after being given immunity she can still be prosecuted for lying.....
She did just that. They even handed her her printed out testimony she STILL said ‘five’..
Issa and Bonehead are letting them get away.
So you are all in favor of denying someone their constitutional rights just so you can slam republicans?
Correct. Exercising the right to remain silent means remaining silent. Once you testify, you essentially waive that right; and testify is exactly what she just did.
Think of a criminal case where one is on trial for murder. Once the defendant decides to take the witness stand and answer questions from his own lawyer, he opens himself up to cross-examination. Once he decides to testify, he does not get to pick and choose which questions he will answer from the prosecutor.
The same goes for Lerner here. Once she decided to issue a statement, she opened herself up to cross-examination, (at which point she decided to invoke Amendment V). The mistake here is that they allowed her to read the statement to begin with before asking her a question they knew she wouldn't answer.
Trey Gowdy doesn’t miss much, wait and see what happens.
Where’s a live feed ?
Yes she is a bigot and one would think Cummings would be careful with condoning bigots.
So. What prevented the GOP asking her some questions and FORCING
her to plead the fifth over and over again? Weak knee bunch of GOP
losers.. That’s what.
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