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Marco Rubio’s embarrassing appearance on Fox, Part Two
Poweline ^ | May 24, 2013 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 05/25/2013 12:33:03 AM PDT by presidio9

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This is not an endorsement of Marco Rubio or his immigration plan. That being said, the thing that disappointed me most about his appearance on Hannity was his unwillingness to say what should be clear to anybody who has been paying attention: The left has zero interest in shutting the borders. Doing so would not be in their best interest. And they seem to believe that making us look like we are blocking ANY discussion of immigration reform is good for them too. So, while I have plenty of issues with Rubio's plan, I do commend him for at least TALKING about a plan. I would love to see this part united in the public stance that we are ready to have some sort of deal that falls somewhere short of the unrealistic "Let's load them all into cattle cars and ship them back to Mexico," in return to practical concessions on sealing the border. So, in that sense, I do admit that what Rubio is doing is a step in the right direction. Even if it is political suicide.
1 posted on 05/25/2013 12:33:03 AM PDT by presidio9
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Rubio is getting caught up in his stardom.

He wants to make a signature bill that will a crowning achievement of sorts, without the mile markers that will enable us to measure the legislation success or failure.


2 posted on 05/25/2013 12:46:25 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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Why is it a given that we must accept millions of law breakers in our midst? And why the "cattle car" analogy?

Oh I see.

If the illegals are not allowed to work and denied welfare they will go home. It's really not that hard.

3 posted on 05/25/2013 12:59:41 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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I doubt they’d self-deport. They’ll find some way to keep the free money coming in, if not outright demonstrations and marches organized by Liberal groups.


4 posted on 05/25/2013 1:08:06 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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Only 10% of Republicans have to vote for Amnesty for this horrible bill to pass. So practically all democrats will vote for Amnesty (as 100% did for Obamacare) but 12% of Republicans vote for Amnesty and then most will blame Republicans. Well R’s stopped Bush’s Amnesty and get no credit. But only blame while democrats who want to make slaves us us get a pass. I hope I’m wrong but i think they are going to sneak this through. are we calling Congress?

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Democrats are committed to amnesty with or without border security, and thus will vote virtually unanimously for immigration reform legislation that doesn’t secure the border.

This means that such legislation can be enacted even if only about 10 percent of Republicans in the Senate and the House support it. Does anyone believe that congressional Republicans are 90 percent fool-proof on immigration reform (or anything else)? I don’t.


5 posted on 05/25/2013 1:13:04 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: presidio9; Liz; cripplecreek; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; ...

I saw part of this show and DVRed it for tomorrow. Will post my first hand analysis after. Until then the post is above.


6 posted on 05/25/2013 1:22:49 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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Rubio lost his credibility.


7 posted on 05/25/2013 1:24:18 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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In Miami, most of the people there are NOT Americans but foreigners, 3rd world immigrants.

So Rubio is kissing up to these immigrants

The city I live in same thing. i see it overrun by foreign 3rd world vermin.And they vote democrat

this is all due to the 1965 immigration Act

8 posted on 05/25/2013 1:29:53 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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I keep waiting for someone to say,...."Let's just build the fence." We coulda had the fence built 10 years ago, but every time we bring it up, they tack on some "comprehensive" BS. We don't need no stinking "comprehensive". Just build the fence.

When the fence gets built, we can talk about the other stuff. The fact that they won't build the fence just proves the point. Why is it imperative to add the other crap onto the Bill to build the fence? They are so anxious to have a 2000 page Bill with all the goodies, they really don't want to close the border.

9 posted on 05/25/2013 1:36:16 AM PDT by chuckles
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Rubio will never see another dime from me...or the GOP....We sent him and he became a RINO .....Wonder what Sarah thinks..she help make his campaign.......


10 posted on 05/25/2013 1:57:43 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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I saw a few minutes of that appearance and frankly I was shocked at how stupid and naive he came across. He looked like a dweeby little boy and sounded like an over prepped high school student debate team member who was loaded for bear with meaningless talking points.

Frankly I said to myself, “That’s Marco Rubio?” He had Zero charisma! Standing next to Hannity he looked so boyish. I can’t believe people ever considered him Presidential material.

Marco Rubio is not fit to stand in the shadow of Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz is a Giant. Marco Rubio is a political midget.


11 posted on 05/25/2013 2:24:22 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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Aisles and GOPe pimping amnesty on Sean

Sad


12 posted on 05/25/2013 2:28:28 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To hell with Rubio. Either he really wants to add millions of dem voters or he has no belief his plan will pass and he’s pandering. Neither looks good so screw him.


13 posted on 05/25/2013 2:28:35 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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Democrat_media: "The city I live in same thing. i see it overrun by foreign 3rd world vermin."

"Vermin" is a historically loaded word.
You don't ever want to use it for anyone less heinous than, say, suicide bombers.

In today's world, we might use the term "vermin" to talk about Nazis or Nazi-like behavior, but not about their Jewish victims, or similar unwanted groups.

So those Boston bombers and London knife-murderers qualify as Nazi-like "vermin", but ordinary people just trying their best to be good Americans do not.

It might help to remember that, except for Native Americans, all our ancestors were considered 3rd world foreign "vermin" at one time or another.
And yet many overcame their ancestry, and today vote with Conservative Republicans! ;-)

14 posted on 05/25/2013 2:28:42 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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When Rubio first came into the limelight, I liked him - liked what he said. Only, he just wasn’t saying “we need to ‘normalize’ these illegals” like his now constantly saying.

Further, his participation along with RYAN in those radio ads from Americans For a Conservative Direction, paid for by FaceBook’s Mark Zuckerberg that play constantly on Rush’s show are really pissing me off! If he’s done anything by allowing this, he’s assured no support from me, EVER.


15 posted on 05/25/2013 2:31:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Mr. Gang of Eight Rubio has made a big political overstep (possibly one he won’t recover from) and now he knows it.


16 posted on 05/25/2013 2:34:00 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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There were several Democratic Senators that were demanding that the IRS harass the Tea Party groups. The IRS ended up doing as they were instructed. This harassment was a violation of thenCivil Rights of members of these organizations.

As I see it, these Sentaors were demanding the the Civil Rights of American citizens be violated. Why are there not law suits brought against these senators? A senate embroiled in Civil Rights Violation litigation would not be too focused on pushing through the Obama Anmesty Act of 2013.


17 posted on 05/25/2013 2:42:08 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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A few months ago, Rubio stated his insistence for a security-first strategy... now he’s all about “accounting for the 11 million people who are already here” and at some later time find ways to secure the border, of which he still has yet to address how.

This, like all other “immigration legislation,” is designed to mainly satisfy Mexico and its agents in La Raza. The “security” component is only a dog bone thrown out to peel off enough conservative support to put it over the top. In all reality, under this legislation, securing of the border will not occur... ever.

But, taking this at face value, let’s allow for a moment that Rubio truly and idealistically believes this is the real deal, and it becomes law. What then happens when the dems, in an election year, say 2016, decide to pull an end-run and stand in front of cameras with reps from La Raza and other pressure group, stating they intend to “improve” this wonderful new law by “streamlining” the citizenship process, or offer welfare, housing and food stamp benefits, because “denial of these benefits is unfair?”

As always, so little forethought has been applied here.. but no worries.. Marco and his wife are on the Beltway cocktail party invite list, he gets to bask in praise from Harry Reid and the “media” treat him as their best bud.


18 posted on 05/25/2013 2:48:09 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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The formula ought to be “shut borders now, talk about reform later.” But for some reason it’s just the other way around, and it’s easy to see why.


19 posted on 05/25/2013 2:53:52 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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“I saw part of this show and DVRed it for tomorrow”

I saw about ten minutes and wanted to throw up—certainly don’t want to see rubio spewing his love for lawbreakers anymore.


20 posted on 05/25/2013 2:56:23 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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