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1 posted on 05/25/2013 5:34:43 PM PDT by vietvet67
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We should have at least tried...


2 posted on 05/25/2013 5:35:26 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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If this doesn’t make people sick AND wake people up to the agenda of 0dumbo etc then we might be lost


3 posted on 05/25/2013 5:37:37 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To the extent that the Military contains the CinC, Zer0, there is no way that they can protect the Constitution nor the country (see the purge of those who would not shoot the citizenry).


4 posted on 05/25/2013 5:38:34 PM PDT by Paladin2
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THEN WHY THE FOLK DIDN’T YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU KNOW DAM WELL YOU ARE REQUIRED TO DISOBEY AN ILLEGAL ORDER AND LEAVING AMERICANS TO BE TORTURED AND DIE BY OUR ENEMIES IS WRONG ILLEGAL AND FOUL. FOLK YOU AMERICAN MILITARY FOR BEING COWARDS!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 05/25/2013 5:40:39 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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It is a virtual certainty that the 6th Fleet monitored the events in Benghazi from the beginning, had a well planned intervention ready to launch, and were ordered to stand down. If nothing else the Republican Congress owes it to history and the country to learn who gave the stand down order and why.


6 posted on 05/25/2013 5:41:46 PM PDT by allendale
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The SEALs took Osama and is let go they could have taken North Africa let alone Benghazi.
7 posted on 05/25/2013 5:43:32 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Undocumented Tyrant's GunWalking AG (and hero of al Qaeda):
"We will be known as the country that leaves its people behind.
And if you don't like that, I will audit your family."

9 posted on 05/25/2013 5:46:13 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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“Combatant Commanders In-Extremis (CIF) units are always on alert, on forward deployment, ready to respond. Their job description is to hit the ground in 3 to 5 hours. CIF elements are ready to engage in active combat anywhere in their region, 3 to 5 hours after the call.”

I know these exist, their goal is rescue, and they are stationed in certain regions around the world. I know this because a documentary was talked about being made of one of these units. That was a few years ago. I won't say where that one was but I knew it existed. When this emergency happened, I wondered then if one of these units could have been used as they stand at the ready 24/7.

10 posted on 05/25/2013 5:48:24 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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The Marines who died that fateful day unnecessarily but nonetheless in service to the country they loved & swore to defend will be remembered this Memorial Day.

It’s comforting to know that oath still matters, despite some who give it lip-service at best...


11 posted on 05/25/2013 5:49:17 PM PDT by mikrofon (Prayers for our Departed Heroes)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
Where was the cic? That is the question I want answered FIRST.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


13 posted on 05/25/2013 5:53:51 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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UCMJ article 99;
Text. “Any member of the armed forces who before or in the presence of the enemy—

(1) runs away;

(2) shamefully abandons, surrenders, or delivers up any command, unit, place, or military property which it is his duty to defend;

(3) through disobedience, neglect, or intentional misconduct endangers the safety of any such command, unit, place, or military property;

(4) casts away his arms or ammunition;

(5) is guilty of cowardly conduct;

(6) quits his place of duty to plunder or pillage;

(7) causes false alarms in any command, unit, or place under control of the armed forces;

(8) willfully fails to do his utmost to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy any enemy troops, combatants, vessels, aircraft, or any other thing, which it is his duty so to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy; or

(9) does not afford all practicable relief and assistance to any troops, combatants, vessels, or aircraft of the armed forces belonging to the United States or their allies when engaged in battle; shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.”


16 posted on 05/25/2013 5:56:26 PM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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Obama is remaking the US military from top to bottom. When he is done, they will be much quicker to fire on Christian Americans than they will Muslims.
18 posted on 05/25/2013 6:00:31 PM PDT by Truth29
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Obama is AWOL. There’s no other explanation.


20 posted on 05/25/2013 6:00:54 PM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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Our Military? Of course they could have!

They were stood down solely due to the failure of the Narcissist-in-Chief to authorize CBA.

Two Veteran Seals, one retired, showed what our Military could do - one fire team, not only given no support despite repeated requests, but apparently ordered to "stand down."

That's an order that would stick in the craw of any of our Elite Forces - Seals, Special Forces, Marine Recon, and all the others. It's the sort of order that, if they had the necessary assets on hand to defeat the attackers, would have resulted in "garbled transmission" not received as they dispatched the enemy.

The Blood of Ambassador Stevens, the Veteran Sean Smith, and the Valiant Navy Seal Vets who held on unaided for seven long hours is on the hands of Obama, Clinton, and their acolytes.



Thanks for th eping, Mesta!



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26 posted on 05/25/2013 6:14:30 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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It Wasn’t Just Four Americans Abandoned in Benghazi

http://pjmedia.com/blog/it-wasnt-just-four-americans-abandoned-in-benghazi/

With deadly force and weapons of war, foreigners and terrorists attacked over 30 Americans in Benghazi.

Now, imagine the THINKING and the CALCULATION that went into denying them military assistance!

Clearly, the decision was made that all 30 could be killed and we would not lift a finger.
27 posted on 05/25/2013 6:21:18 PM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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The question I would ask Panetta is how did he know that this would end so quickly? They don’t know what is going on but they know it will be over in a given time frame ?


28 posted on 05/25/2013 6:24:11 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (President Obma; The Slumlord of the Rentseekers)
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The United States was under attack and every SCIF Conference room in not only the U.S. miltary (land and Sea) but probably some Canadian, Australian, British and some others watched in real time also. That’s one bell this Zip Pin Head in the Oval Office can’t “unring”. There’s only so many concussions Hillary can have.


43 posted on 05/25/2013 7:07:06 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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All this is true but misses the main point- if we took 3 hours or 12 hours to reach him, we should have tried.

When it started we had no idea how long it was going to last.

When they got the call that they were under attack, did they think “gosh, this will be over in a few hours- we better not send anyone”???

But I absolutely do not believe it would take that long- we don’t put people that far away from help


45 posted on 05/25/2013 7:12:21 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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I remember the day this happened. I thought for sure the fellow in the white house was done.
Then the spin started.

Then the media started to back the spin.

I have said since that day, we could have had JEts in the air within an hour to do at least a fly by.

Naval Air Station Sigonella Southern Italy NATO base Sicily is 468 miles from Benghazi.

More than 2900 active duty personel. C-2, C-9, an HC squadron and is the major support element for US SIXTH Fleet Mediterranean.

So, where was the sixth fleet Hillary?

Okay, here is a link to NAS Sigonela:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/sigonella.htm


50 posted on 05/25/2013 7:24:23 PM PDT by stormryter (How much is enough.)
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They were ready, the CInC was voting present. But we still don’t know where he was.


52 posted on 05/25/2013 7:44:09 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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