Wreck hunters plot new expedition to find 17th-century Griffon

National Post ^ | May 27, 2013 | Randy Boswell

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Fur would rot and would probably disappear in 100-200 years.

I’d like to see pictures of this wreck and the site is developed...

[Hot Tabasco]

I want to know why... I also want to know what

You're making a lot of demands here fella.........

[Sacajaweau]

It's a waters /boat thing. Michigan lays claim as its supposedly in their waters. France lays claim because it was their ship.

But I'm not convinced France actually owned the ship and we have yet to declare it "found" at this location. I have to drag out a very old book.

[SunkenCiv]

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[Youngman542012]

I wonder if they will write a song about the sinking....like the Edmond Fitzgerald...

[Paperpusher]

That had to be a BIG storm!

[bunkerhill7]

They`re going to dive for furry beavers.

[Sacajaweau]

This is from Hennepins "A New Discovery of a Vast Country in America" originally published in 1698. (Hennepin is considered a liar of sorts.)

The Griffon and LaSalle are at Washington Island, off the mouth of Green Bay. Here LaSalle found traders....they had accumulated a goodly store of furs, which were promptly loaded on the vessel.

...."The crew of the Griffon were accordingly ordered to sail at once to Niagara, and then with all imaginable speed, to join us toward the Southern Parts of the Lake, where we would stay for them among the Illinois"

LaSalle with 14 men in HEAVILY LADEN CANOES, paddled southward along the Wisconsin shore of Lake Michigan.

November arrived at the mouth of St. Joseph River.

The Griffin was supposed to arrive here also??

...."loss in a storm between Green Bay and Mackinac".

That would mean she was lost almost immediately after setting sail.

In a previous sentence, I don't understand the cargo of heavily laden canoes". Was that a slip?? The furs were to go to LaSalle's personal creditors.

Hmmmm

[Sacajaweau]

http://washingtonisland-wi.com/le-griffon-the-griffin/

[hondact200]

In French Green Bay means bay of stinking water. If you have ever been to Green Bay - it does stink!

[hondact200]

Here is the French - La Baie des Puantes - stinking bay

[Squawk 8888]

Most of the trees are conifers but there’s one that does look like a palm. The drawing is supposed to depict the boat’s construction in Niagara Falls.

[1010RD]

backed by the governments of France and Michigan

You guys are moving up or down in the world?

[1010RD]

Right, every government should get a chance to pour taxpayer monies into a lake!

[1010RD]

November arrived at the mouth of St. Joseph River.

Does she visit every fall?

[Sacajaweau]

All the pictures in Hennepins works show those palm type trees. I’m sure it’s the same artist. I’ll post another one this afternoon...

[Bigg Red]

Yipes! My mother told me once what a “physic” referred to during her childhood in the early 1900s.

[SunkenCiv]

Note: this topic is from 2013.

Update:

• Muskegon divers claim to find elusive "Le Griffon" shipwreck

Related topic:

• France Says it Owns Legendary Vessel (Court Case Over 17th Century Ship in Lake Michigan)
• Wreck hunters plot new expedition to find 17th-century Griffon

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

“I had one of my physic episodes”
Oh! So you have them too? I find them rather annoying.