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Speech Expert: Trayvon Martin Screaming for Help in 911 Call Is ‘Imaginary Stuff’
The Blaze ^ | June 9, 2013 | Madeleine Morgenstern

Posted on 06/10/2013 6:23:37 AM PDT by grundle

A speech expert for George Zimmerman’s defense called it “imaginary stuff” to claim that slain Florida teenager Trayvon Martin can be heard begging for help in 911 audio.

George Doddington refuted analysis from a state witness who testified that he detected Martin screaming “I’m begging you” on a 911 call.

“That’s imaginary stuff,” Doddington said during a pretrial in Sanford, Fla. Friday, calling the methodology to detect the audio — using another recording of Martin’s voice — “absurd,” ABC News reported.

George Zimmerman claims he acted in self-defense when he fatally shot the unarmed teenager last year; Martin’s family says he was killed in cold blood by a man who racially profiled him.

Both sides are fighting over the screaming captured on the 911 audio. If it’s determined to belong to Martin, it could indicate Zimmerman was the aggressor, but if it’s determined to be Zimmerman, it could mean he was fighting for his life, as he has claimed.

Jury selection in the second-degree murder trial begins Monday, more than 15 months after the shooting that ignited racial tensions and set off protests throughout the country.


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1 posted on 06/10/2013 6:23:37 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle
If Zimmerman wailed, he must not be jailed.
2 posted on 06/10/2013 6:26:25 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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To: grundle

WHAT! This so called expert will now have to be debunked. How dare him say such a thing. Probably (if you look real hard) he’s a kkk member or something. You just know he hates black people.


3 posted on 06/10/2013 6:28:10 AM PDT by rktman
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To: grundle

“That’s imaginary stuff”

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That not only applies to the screaming they thought was Martin’s; it applies to the prosecutor’s entire case.


4 posted on 06/10/2013 6:28:32 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: grundle

I read an article the other day that said one of the experts just couldn’t stop laughing at the ridiculous methodology of one of the prosecution’s “experts”.


5 posted on 06/10/2013 6:31:16 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: rktman

I’m guessing the brand of gun is racist too. Probably killed more blacks than white/Hispanics.


6 posted on 06/10/2013 6:35:07 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: jiggyboy

You were probably reading Legal Insurrection

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerman-prosecutions-voice-expert-admits-this-is-not-really-good-evidence/

Summary of the excellent testimony of the defense witnesses and the ridiculous testimony of the prosecution witness


7 posted on 06/10/2013 6:39:51 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: grundle

Let’s see....there are one of two possibilities here.

1. Trayvon Martin, while on top of Zimmerman pounding on him MME style and pounding his head into the concrete, yells “help, please, somebody help me”.

or

2. Zimmerman, having his head pounded into the concrete by a stanger on top of him, yells for help.

Which sounds more likely?


8 posted on 06/10/2013 6:40:45 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: grundle

Forget audio forensics, are we to believe Martin is screaming for help while smashing Zimerman’s head into the concrete?


9 posted on 06/10/2013 6:44:36 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: House Atreides
. . . when he fatally shot the unarmed teenager last year . . .

Real unbiased reporting we have here.

Was TM a petite little unarmed teenager as implied here?

Or a large teenage thug beating Zimmerman's head into the concrete as the evidence indicates?

10 posted on 06/10/2013 7:01:55 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: grundle

Both sides are fighting over the screaming captured on the 911 audio. If it’s determined to belong to Martin, it could indicate Zimmerman was the aggressor, but if it’s determined to be Zimmerman, it could mean he was fighting for his life, as he has claimed.


This is all the prosecution has. If they can convince a Jury that it is Martin, they have the “excuse” for a guilty verdict. This is true even though there are a hundred logical “human nature” reasons that it would be absurd that it was Martin screaming.

This one thing does not come close to getting a jury beyond a reasonable doubt regarding guilt, but then, an “excuse” is all that is needed to prevent the “jury tampering” accusations. I can’t tell you how many “seemingly rational” people I know voted for Obama in 2012 and their reason was that Romney would just be such a terrible mistake that they did not care WHO the democrat was. Sure, it’s a total cop out, but what are you gonna do?


11 posted on 06/10/2013 7:09:58 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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Martins family has no idea what he was doing , His dad was shacked up with a girlfriend and no telling what his mother was up to. He was a thief a drug dealer and a mugger, if they knew it they didn’t care, but they have had some wonderful trips paid for by the TV shows.


12 posted on 06/10/2013 7:30:21 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: House Atreides

Exactly. That has been my question: Why would Trayvon be screaming for help when he was—clearly—winning the fight?


13 posted on 06/10/2013 7:32:42 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (There's no shame in attacking a criminal's bean bag. -- Ron Swanson)
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To: Vigilanteman

where is it implied a petite little unarmed teenager?
Is it as fact that he was unarmed?
Was the article entirely fair to Zimmerman?
I’m not exactly sure what it is you expect from the article.
How about the unarmed but hulking teen who undoubtedly had multiple mixed martial championships in his future?


14 posted on 06/10/2013 8:08:47 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: grundle
Hispanic democrat male kills black democrat male... yep, that's rare.... definitely dog bites man.

NBC is still praying Zimmerman can be played as 'white' conservative... they're wrong.

15 posted on 06/10/2013 8:25:04 AM PDT by GOPJ (The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it - Josef Mengele (new NSA motto))
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Martins family has no idea what he was doing

The kid leaves the house at 7:00 p.m. (likely to smoke some dope or case the neighborhood or both) to allegedly get some Skittles and the old man doesn't know the kid never returned until 8:00 a.m. the next morning when the cops called him to tell him his kid was killed the evening before.......

Nobody in the MSM has ever mentioned that fact.....

16 posted on 06/10/2013 9:53:00 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: grundle
Jury selection in the second-degree murder trial begins Monday, more than 15 months after the shooting that ignited racial tensions and set off protests throughout the country.

"Racial tensions and protests"? Pure BS, nobody cared about this case but the poverty pimps and Obama. If Obama would have kept his comments out of this all his fleas and ticks would not have jumped on Zimmerman. I have always wondered if Obama did not simply see the name "Zimmerman", think "Jew" and then did what Obama, a moslem, does naturally.

The concern over the Martin/Zimmerman situation is a farce anyway. I suggest that those that have issues with violence and wish to do something about it start by listening to the Chicago police scanner on any night. If you are brave try a Friday or Saturday night. It is a war zone and young black men in "hoodies" are killing each other and anyone else like there is no tomorrow. It is sickening.

17 posted on 06/10/2013 10:07:02 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: grundle

If the defense is smart they will feature that 7 Eleven video prominently from beginning to end. It comes into play from start to finish — showing that he bought watermelon juice not iced tea, that he was closer to 6-3 not 5-11, and his voice saying “Hello” —

Why didn’t the state’s experts use this “Hello” at 7 Eleven to compare the the screaming “Help” that came later. They are phonetically identical — so why not use them. They occurred less than an hour apart — so why not test them against each other to see if they came from the same mouth.

Answer: I’m sure they did and they were not even close, and thus there was no mention of it in the Frye Hearing. They know that they are in deep trouble there.


18 posted on 06/10/2013 11:09:40 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Jury selection court live now on Orlando site....are you doing a live thread today?


19 posted on 06/10/2013 11:16:10 AM PDT by Bronzy
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To: Bronzy

I didn’t start a LIVE thread — just used this one:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3029461/posts


20 posted on 06/10/2013 11:23:27 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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