Posted on 06/11/2013 11:02:21 AM PDT by nickcarraway
George Takei is hardly the only American concerned about the NSA's massive surveillance programs. But unlike most people, his fears are rooted in the memory of the government persecution he suffered firsthand in a Japanese internment camp.
"Due process is a pillar of our American justice system," the Star Trek star told Daily Intelligencer last night at the Eighth Annual Stella by Starlight Benefit Gala. "We were rounded up simply because we happened to look like the people who bombed Pearl Harbor. And we were put in prison camps with barbed wire and machine guns pointed at us. It was a horrific violation of our Constitution."
Because of that experience, Takei is particularly wary of the government's powers being abused. "We know where this can go," he said. "We have to be ever vigilant against overstepping of the fundamental ideals of our democracy."
Takei understands that President Obama "is a person who has to deal with a lot of issues." But on the NSA spying programs, he says, "I don't agree."
That said, the bunch currently in charge makes FDR look like Barry Goldwater.
You got that right. And the current crowd would make Hitler or Stalin look like Boy Scouts if they’re allowed to. Obama and his minions are as evil as they get.
Given your personal experience would you agree that only those with associations with Japanese officials were placed in Internment camps? I somehow thought entire families were.
A little off topic, but I have been seeing some strange divisions on this subject. It does not break down on liberal conservative lines.
There are liberals (and self proclaimed) conservatives supporting Obama on spying on American citizens and there are liberals and conservative opposing it.
I am wondering if Hell has frozen over since I am on the same side as Michael Moore on this.
That’s how they were able to identify them. I’m not saying it was right, but I’m not exactly saying it was wrong either. There were actual Japanese spies and sabateurs at the time, so instead of waiting for them to strike, the government used a broad-axe approach and just rounded them all up. What people today don’t realize, for the most part, is that there was an actual danger of losing to the Japanese. For a long time we were losing every battle, and the Japanese at the time were not exactly benevolent conquerers. So maybe that justifies a little over reaction. They were certainly treated better than they treated our prisoners.
I am wondering if Hell has frozen over since I am on the same side as Michael Moore on this.
So what?
He posts some really funny stuff and his cameos on Big Bang Theory are hysterical.
The internment camps will not be for anyone of any specific ethnicity, except that whites will be “over-represented”.
This crowd would like nothing more than to go full on holocaust on white Christians in this country.
Entire families ...
Americans of Japanese ancestry and Japanese legal aliens living on the US West Coast and Alaska had to leave their areas or be interned. If you lived outside those areas you were not likely to be interned (like my aunt).
If you were thought to be a “leader” you were likely to have been interned right after Pearl Harbor. My grandfather (served one year as a school trustee) was put into solitary confinement for a year at Fort Abraham Lincoln in North Dakota.
My parents did not like the camps (who would?) but they had one advantage: plenty of meat and sugar, a scarcity in WW2.
Interesting perspective on data gathering. No one can convince me the information being gleaned won’t be used on Obama’s political enemies. Portions of it... especially on political candidates.. will end up in the hands of the DNC.
It doesn't break down on 'liberal'/'conservative' lines because those two labels are so tainted, muddled, and ambiguous [mutually exclusive definitions of the words] that they have nearly lost all meaning. What you are seeing would be better described as a limited vs. unlimited government, or statism vs constitutionalism — unfortunately some [many?] have been brainwashed to equate a weak federal power with a weak [national-]defense; nothing could be further from the truth: our security should not [and logistically cannot] stem from government might, but must flow from the citizen. That is the reason for the 2nd Amendment:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.As you can see, security [of a free state] is founded/nourished/attained by its people having the free/unabridged ownership and usage of weapons. This is not to say that murder is a-ok as long as you use a weapon; but that such is properly viewed as murder and the circumstance of being armed or unarmed is utterly irrelevant to that fact, the same with robbery or commission of any other felony.
FDR was horribly racist and antisemitic, not surprised.
So nothing. Just like to put the entire Homosexual agenda into context.
there aren’t that many homosexuals, even in an open society like ours.
BTW. I like George, he is a funny guy and seems like a nice person. However, he is still a sexual degenerate whom I wouldn’t trust to care for my sons, pubescent or otherwise.
I suggest you use imgur.com
George Takei and others continue to harp on the subject in order to assert some form of victim hood. The Japanese government is happy to promote the Japanese as historic victims of Western racists in order to cover up the atrocities they inflicted upon their Asian neighbors. Whereas Germany conducted a denazification program and admit their history, the Japanese to this day admit to doing no wrong. Their leaders continue to honor their war dead, including convicted and executed war criminals.
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