Posted on 07/02/2013 9:22:10 AM PDT by barmag25
Edited on 07/02/2013 9:24:52 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Tucson Gun Rights Examiner Chris Woodard alerted readers Friday to some of the most recently introduced federal gun bills (both anti-rights and pro-rights). In fact, his Constitution Watch blog is a great resource for keeping current on pending federal gun legislation. Today, we will focus on Representative Jackie Speier's (D-CA) H.R. 2566, the "Modernized Law Enforcement Officers Protection Act of 2013."
The text is not yet available, so the look will necessarily be somewhat cursory, but there are some assumptions that are probably safe to make.
For one thing, we can almost certainly assume that by "armor piercing," Rep. Speier means that the ammunition is capable of defeating soft body armor, like that worn by cops on the beat, rather than the much heavier and bulkier rigid body armor worn by combat troops and S.W.A.T. team personnel. To be considered "armor piercing," in other words, the ammunition would need only, at most, to defeat Level IIIa armor (if Speier lowers the standard below that, even more ammunition would be banned). In fact, Speier makes that pretty clear in her press release, which talks about "first responders," rather than soldiers:
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Please, go on any ammunition website that sells Wolf WPA Classic and Silver Bear and read the description of the bullet. I am fully aware that almost all ammo in 5.45x39 is steel cased. I’ve only owned the gun for several years and shot several thousands of rounds out of it.
As will 7.62x25 (.30 Tokarev) pistol ammo.
JG Sales has Romanian TTC 33 pistols for $219. Ammo - don't know...
Correct. No body armor less than Class III (with a hard trauma plate) is even rated against rifle fire. Most police wear Class IIIA, which is effective against pistol fire only. Even rifles chambered in pistol calibers can defeat Class IIIA. The only soft armor rated against rifle fire is Class IV which is supposedly effective against 7.62x51 NATO and .30-06. But Class IV is very expensive and uncommon outside of SWAT units.
Correct. Most 5.56 and .223 out there can penetrate level III. However, to make it a point, when there’s ammo out there like XM855 available for purchase by consumers in addition to 5.45x39, rest assured those will be the first targeted by the politicians to be outlawed.
Virtually all rifle rounds will penetrate IIIa armor, steel-core or otherwise.
7.62x25 is awfully hard to find these days. My only source recently dried up. J&G was selling Polish surplus before Christmas, but that is now gone too.
Really not much for them to worry about unless somebody comes up with a Dumb-azz penetrating round.
Next step is to ban all ammo capable of penetrating denim or a t-shirt.
Bingo. What, you think the DH-Stapo is buying billions of rounds of ammo for a long 20 year range session at Bob's Guns and Tackle?
OR A "HOODIE".
Wonder if they’ll eventually legislate to ban supersonic rounds.
It looks like a lot of us are about to become outlaws.
>>>>>>>>>
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you - you know your nation is doomed.
-Ayn Rand
not politicians, TYRANTS. more accurate. drives the point home.
Next you know, they’ll even make the M2-AP Garand Food illegal.
even with the armor ribs/bones will be broken by absorbing the force of the round.
Steel cased means the steel is not in the bullet. It is the “case” that holds the bullet, primer and powder.
I’ve shot it as well. The bimetal bullet is lead jacketed with copper.
XM855 isn’t for penetrating soft armor. As already stated, any standard 5.56 round will penetrate IIIa soft armor or lighter. The primary reason the military designed the XM855 is to penetrate an old steel military helmets at 500 meters, since the ball they were using at the time couldn’t do that.
It might as well be already. I haven’t seen a source for that stuff in years.
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