Posted on 07/10/2013 12:44:28 AM PDT by Moseley
I can’t help but think that the prosecution knows it had a poor case at best and that the judge knows it as well. If GZ walks then the prosecution is in the clear from the political point of view - they held the trial. The judge joined the prosecution team and did her best to ensure that GZ was convicted and if he is convicted she will be a hero until the appeals court slaps her down for her conduct. But that will all happen under the radar at that point. The state is in the clear because they got a trial. If GZ walks then they can blame six racist white women. A real setup to avoid riots at all costs. Never mind what happen to justice itself, but then that has not been a concern in the legal system for quite a few years.
“The presecution “blew” the case against Zimmerman and no doubt he does walk.”
True if the verdict is based on facts and evidence, but there is a great emotional pressure for a conviction. Everyone knows that if there is an acquital there will be riots and people will be killed. The jury may take that into consideration, not to mention the well being of themselves and their families.
I have a lot of doubts that “riots” will happen. It is more “talk” just to do a “scare”.
Because it is FL and it is very hot down there, riots are less likely to happen.
To: Moseley
“I may be in the minority here, but I fail to see how GZ has proven his innocence beyond a reasonable doubt.”........
In the “old justice system” we all grew up with, Zimmerman’s defense DOES NOT HAVE TO PROVE INNOCENCE, the prosecution has to prove GUILTY, BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
Did you miss all the “resonable doubts”? Then again, the media and some of society has officially helped change our law to read “Guilty until proven innocent”.
Forgot your sarcasm tag?
Briefly caught her on last night’s show...the woman is not well. Her one guest was saying how the case should never have come to trial in the first place...smoke and mirrors were used to create a sense that there even was a case. Poor ol’ Nancy reamed him for using cliches rather than addressing her question (her guest was smiling as she went on her little hissy fit.)
Truth be told EVERYONE in America is avoiding the real issue here (except maybe at FR). Trayvon was behaving himself in typical thug-culture fashion, a Black response to perceived (and, at times, real) oppression that IS MEANT to instill a certain fear in those of the privileged (white) class. The “gangsta” mentality is not some innocent, healthy play-acting performed by children (akin, say, to playing “army” - something we did when we were young). It is a perception that many youth (and, especially, many black youth) manifest on a daily basis 24/7. It involves fostering a menacing visual appearance which brings with it the potential for either confrontation (”what you lookin’ at!”) or the perception of being rejected (ask yourself if you’ve ever found yourself averting your eyes while a group of “saggin’, droopy-clothed, baseball cap-wearing, “tatted-up”, mother-f4%*&er-swearing black youth amble your way. If you are smart, you don’t expect a “What’s up?” from such a group.)
This scene plays itself out all across America each and every day. The result is racial mistrust on the part of whites and a sense of racial hostility and rage on the part of blacks (Didn’t recent polls indicate that blacks were more racist than whites—poll findings that held even when measuring only black respondents?). And, since this scene is being played out each and every day across America (and you add the various body counts in the predominantly black inner city neighborhoods where it’s open season on young black males, and you add the creeping in of an overt current of racial hostility toward all things white/christian/male(and traditional American culture) emanating from Hollywood, from schools, from the White House, and you add the media’s willingness to downplay any of these variables as even remotely likely in adequately explaining racial tensions in America—all of which serves to create a sort of rubber stamp of approval of the thug life, you have a fairly dangerous mixture. And whenever this is brought up (and it rarely is), the various race hustlers, race apologists, black “legal experts”, reverends will not spend so much as a sentence on this part of the equation without some reference to, “Well, what we’ve got to understand is that this “gangsta” mind-set was created as a way of coping with any impossibly oppressive regime that will not allow a young, black male to experience the kind of freedom and opportunity that young white males have by virtue of their white births.” And, quickly, the conversation reverts back to the “crazy-a*& cracka’s” that are keeping strong black men down. We’ve all seen it.
The key point is this: One side and one side only is being asked to examine themselves, while the other side is found to be acting/reacting in expected/understandable ways. Whites must ever answer for the injustice of slavery in America. Blacks, understandably, will always behave “as freedom-fighters” until such time as true equality is achieved. And whites will continue to feel threatened in those mall-encounters. And blacks will continue to feel slighted when either met or ignored. And we will continue to avoid each other.
Thus, we (America, at large) ever perpetuate division between the races.
He doesn’t have to prove his innocence. They have to prove his guilt.
On this forum, you most certainly are the minority, since you don't seem to grasp the most basic concept of what is SUPPOSED to be our justice system.
Unfortunately, I believe you represent the vast MAJORITY of citizens who have been dumbed down to the point where they, too, believe the defendant has something to "prove."
bkmk
As I read this paragraph, I was transported to rural Alabama in the 1930s -- attempting to think like a "rational rural black" in the face of Jim Crow.
Of course, they did not choose to mobilize against white citizens and the Klan. They chose to accommodate...or to move.
Will whites select the first option? Is the second option any longer viable?
But, for sure, the longer this direction is maintained, the more certain -- and violent -- will be the backlash.
Lord, I hate facing and considering the consequences of the current administration's actions.
Not so, I believe. As I recall, Florida law shields self-defense and stand your ground cases from civil suit.
Really, whether the riots happen or not is an expansion on the core of the Zimmerman case...
“uh oh - whitey fightin’ back!”
Tell you what.....let me repeatedly slam your head into the concrete while you think what options are available to you in that scenario. Deal?
Except the decision to overrule the local officials and appoint a special prosecutor (whose only job is to bring an indictment) wasn’t made by Obama. It was made by a cowardly “Republican” governor and FL AG.
>I fail to see how GZ has proven his innocence beyond a reasonable doubt.<
Since when must he do such a thing; in the USA???
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