Posted on 07/13/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
I pray for a fair and just verdict. My support and thoughts go out to the Zimmerman family and the defense team as we wait.
Links to Live Streams (Thanks Carole):
WAT~ http://wildabouttrial.com/trial_videos/watch-the-george-zimmerman-hearing-live/
Local WFTV~ http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream//
Click Orlando~ http://www.clickorlando.com/news/-/1637132/19533480/-/fm5b93z/-/index.html
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If you recall Mark O'Mara or maybe it was West, wanted the Judge to insert that following someone is not illegal so therefore one can't use that as the initial conflict. The Judge said "Show me the LAW where it says it is NOT illegal. One of the lawyers said "Show me the LAW where it says it is." She refused to make that clarification. That is probably the hang up the Jury has. It will be interesting so see what their exact question is. More than likely she will just read the same law again.
I think that was Boxer to a General. Someone who has done more for this country (the General) in one day, than Boxer has her whole life. It was disgusting!
Maybe that's what they're trying to clarify.
I thought she had dried up and flaked away by now.
Saw it too. ALL of them said he should be acquitted based on the evidence. A couple voiced their PERSONAL opinions that he was guilty for various reasons.
You want to really pull your hair out watch Piers Morgan's show. Judge Alex who is normally real good on this matter said he thought George had pulled the gun first. How the hell does THAT work with the known facts?!?
The judge didn’t even NOTICE he was being called Sir because he IS A ‘SIR’. It never even registered with him.
GZ looks shell shocked in the courtroom.
That was Senator Babs Boxer!
The train from the east has arrived (20 minutes late) and the engine watered and already in the engine house to be bedded down for the evening. There is a gentle rain with a few claps of thunder in the background. The forest fires are out, the forests have been reopened to campers and hikers. The drought has been broken (for now). All is relaxed ...
“in my coffee”
Thanks for mentioning coffee - that’s what I need. Been out in Texas heat dealing with plants and have now cooled down a bit and I need coffee and a small piece of candy to jack me up.
I didn't know that.
At least I won't have to vomit if he's found guilty.
>>>>Bless your heart, it is a very trying time. God is here no matter what happens. He still guides this ship even tho it seems like those of us who cry out to Him have not been heard lately. We know He does hear even if things do not go our way in this trial. Stay under Gods wing....I know you will.<<<<
Thx ydh. You’re a doll, too!!!
Sidebar: My husband is a Southern country boy; I’m a Yankee city girl (Green Aces LOL). In Southern-ese, bless your heart has a “crazy aunt in the basement” connotation. But in my family we always meant just plain ole bless your heart. Whenever he says “bless your heart” to me, he knows now to add the disclaimer: “In the good Yankee way, not the Southern crazyauntinbasement way.” LOL! Sooooooo,
....which one did you mean? ;0)
The note becomes part of the record of the trial.
I think that was what O'Mara was trying to establish with Witness Root when has asked Root to delineate the increasing stages of appropriate response in acts of violence.
I can't remember how that was spelled out in the jury instructions (I listened to them but cannot remember).
Bottom line, regardless of who initiated the argument, a fear of grievous bodily harm and potential death is a defense against murder 2 and manslaughter.
If GZ voted for Obama, he was certainly too stupid to have planned all this from the time he spotted Martin casing the neighborhood and not smart enought to remain in his vehicle; therefore he should be aquitted.
Nope! And here is something else to think about. Obviously this Jury has found him not guilty of 2nd degree murder but if it is a hung jury he can be retried on both these charges again. I just heard a lawyer say they can't separate the two.
I think the jury is wondering if the mere pulling of the trigger is enough “intent” to achieve manslaugher. (ignoring all else)
My pulse is keeping time with it.
You don’t call something an aquittal unless both charges are decided “not guilty”. That’s a verdict and is announced.
I don’t know for certain but I’m under the impression you deal with the charge first that the state put forth and tried to prove. If all agree he’s guilty of that, it’s a guilty verdict. If they agree he’s not guilty or they can’t agree on that, they can choose to move to the lesser included of manslaughter but they do not HAVE to. That they would consider and deliberate on the lesser included means somebody in that room wanted to go there. We don’t know how many. Could even be just one.
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