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Man knocked unconscious, cracks skull in Manhattan after racial slur: witnesses
NY Daily News ^ | 7/13/13 | THOMAS TRACY

Posted on 07/13/2013 8:34:53 AM PDT by jimbo123

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To: jimbo123
Yup, another AfroAmerican armed with a sidewalk committing an assault...a good argument for concrete registration.

Of course, when sidewalks are outlawed, only outlaws will have sidewalks.

301 posted on 07/14/2013 8:51:48 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

So Mr. CT, if some drunk black guy called you a creepy ass cracker, are you going to jump up and physically and violently attack him?

_________________________________________________________

I understand why you evaded the above question Mr. CT...

But I did enjoy your evasive dance of deception...

Cheers!


302 posted on 07/14/2013 9:22:30 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

The answer is in post 242. IF you can’t read, you shouldn’t be playing around, much less lying about things.

One has to question the mental state of a person who asks a question 4 times that has already been answered.

You still didn’t explain what the difference is between physically attacking someone and violently attacking someone. Maybe you don’t know and just figured if you put more words in your question it would sound more impressive.


303 posted on 07/14/2013 9:25:56 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
BTW, for the rest of you, I'll provide the relevant quote from post 241, where the answer lies. Since I'm not posting the questioner, I doubt they will figure this out, since they couldn't even figure out the answer when I posted it directly to them.

maybe you, like me, are a person who just stands there when people insult you. I think that is the right thing to do.
I'm sure the rest of you, unlike the questioner, realize that the answer to his question is staring him in the face -- I would stand there while I was insulted. It is the right thing to do. But I realize that this is a lot of words for that poster to understand. Still, we need to be kind to our less capable freepers, even while we attempt to educate them in basic english comprehension.
304 posted on 07/14/2013 9:30:11 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

LOL!


305 posted on 07/14/2013 9:39:34 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

After viewing this guys posts to other people
You will see he is a mental case
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I am surprised nurse cratchet missed him at bed check.


306 posted on 07/15/2013 6:08:13 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: dragnet2

Hey, I’ve got a question for you, actually it is a series of questions, to make it simple.

1. Do you think there is ANY case where it is OK to respond physically to a verbal comment?

This first question is where I started with the “would you hit someone if they called your wife a name”.

There are some here arguing that it is never acceptable to respond physically.

2. Is it ever OK for a woman to slap a man if the man makes an inappropriate statement to her?

I ask this question because there is a long history and tradition of women defending their honor by slapping a man if he makes inappropriate suggestions about her. Do you believe all those women who do slap a man should be subject to criminal charges, or is it OK for women to respond with physical violence?

3. If a person said “I am going to hit you in 3 seconds”, would it be OK to hit them first (a physical response to a verbal statement), or must you wait until they actually physically hit you?

I have never hit a person in my life. I have been hit before; I respond verbally. I never got hit more than once — in the cases where I was hit, passive resistance was a useful response.

Once I actually interjected myself between a violent man and a guy he was kicking who was lying on the ground. I did so non-violently, physically putting my body in between them. I am serious about being personally non-violent. BTW, this tactic worked (my back was to the assaulter) — the guy stopped kicking, and did not touch me.

One time I grabbed a bat out of someone’s hand at a softball game during a brawl. I had moved myself to the stands, and managed to grab the bat in a non-threatening manner. I was not attacked in response. I’m not stupid enough to have actually tried to get in between two people trying to hit themselves with bats, plus I was a college summer intern at the time and the others were all adult full-time workers with the company.

I do have a plan which involves physical force, if I ever determine that an attacker means to harm me and won’t be stopped by passive resistance (which is actually non-resistance — I did not defend against blows either). I’d like to think I’d survive, but I’d have to be pretty desperate because I find that once you return blows, unless you disable your attacker you generally just make them madder.

I work around halloween as a haunt monster at a local theme park. Sometimes you make people mad and they want to kill you. I’m really good in those circumstances at avoiding punches and kicks. You hope there will only be one — we are strictly prohibited from touching guests, and I’m ideally suited for that as I have no inclination to do so.


307 posted on 07/15/2013 9:33:42 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
None of your questions have anything to do with this story. There was no wife insulted here, no woman assaulted anyone.....lol

Can I be honest with you since ya seem like a little inexperienced fool?

You really need to read this.

This isn't your Daddy's world where things were settled with little friendly fist fight and handshake...You have no idea nowadays who the f**k you're dealing with out here...

Where ya been Mr. CT?

Your son walks into a bar or restaurant and some drunk calls him a hogjawed bitch and your son don't like it and throws the first punch...How in hell does he know this isn't some 2 timer with nothing to lose with a knife he'll stick in your son's neck?

How do you know this drunk just didn't lose his wife in a crash and is looking to kill someone just for kicks?

How do you know the drunk isn't some deranged lumberhead with a pocket gun who's more than willing to put a bullet in your sons head?

Your driving down the road and some guy flips ya off? Whaddia going to junior? Ya going to show the world how tough you are and chase him down? Do you have any idea who that person is or where his heads at? He could be looking to check out slick...He could be cruising just to hurt... You don't think there are people out here like this nowadays?

Some drunk in a restaurant or bar calls your wife a bitch because she bumped him going out the door...You know for sure the drunk isn't going to shove your teeth down your throat for looking at him wrong? You know for sure the drunk isn't going to put a bullet in your head for saying FU to him? Ya think you get to do this over?

What happens if the drunk has 2 buddies at the bar ya didn't see? Ya think your wife will enjoy watching them stomp you into a hospital room?

You don't think this sh*t happens ever single day in this country? All because someone don't like being flipped off or called a word or ask ya if ya got a problem, in the wrong tone?

Did ya learn nothing from the Zimmerman case?

Have you not learned this is no longer your Daddy's America where disputes were solved with a fist fight and a hand shake?

This sh*t happens all the time junior....All the time! So much so, you don't even hear about 98 percent of these incidents unless your a local to it.

Hey, but you be my guest Mr. CT and every time someone says something you don't like, feel free to be the first to physically attack them...

I have no problem with you doing that. Honestly!

308 posted on 07/15/2013 10:35:57 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I see you do have a problem with answering simple questions, but your general tone seems to suggest you think we should put women in prison for slapping people. Feel free to try to correct that misimpression.

Given that you can’t understand a simple answer to a simple question that you asked, even when given to you multiple times, I hold out little hope that you could figure out how to coherently explain your position, much less stop giving people the wrong impression of your opinion.

One thing that is funny is how you have conflated the problem of consequences with the validity of action.

You seem to suggest that something that was perfectly VALID before can suddenly become “INVALID” because of how people will respond.

I would argue that if it is morally acceptable to punch someone in the nose, it continues to be so, even if it is not a prudent thing to do. Your arguments are about prudence, not morality. It would be easier if you could stick with one or the other, or at least acknowledge that you understand the difference.

My questions were regarding “morality”, or more accurately “socially acceptable norms”. Each question seeks to clarify what YOU think is “socially acceptable”. None has anything do to with what is “prudent”. You may well never want to even GO INTO a bar because of what might happen, but that doesn’t mean it is immoral to go into a bar.

Oddly, you seem clueless as regards what I would do, even though I already explained several times that I never hit anybody for anything. Despite my avowed pacifism, you continue to insist that I am looking for an excuse to punch someone. I do appreciate though your permission to do so.

In my “daddy’s” america, they went to war to defend our freedoms. That was a long long time ago. And I still picture you as someone who would be likely to be the first to be beaten up in a bar fight, but that is just a likely mis-impression I get by your general approach to reality.

I can actually see you shouting the n-word in a minority bar and then protesting “Hey, hitting people is never the right response” as you are beaten to a pulp.


309 posted on 07/15/2013 11:56:04 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Yo-Yo

Being name calling idiot should not be a death sentence.


310 posted on 07/15/2013 11:58:27 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I work around halloween as a haunt monster at a local theme park.

I bet you do... lol...

311 posted on 07/15/2013 12:07:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

best job I’ve ever had.


312 posted on 07/15/2013 12:17:28 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Darren McCarty

Apparently even some FReepers have bought into this, or rather, haven’t shaken off the indoctrination.


313 posted on 07/15/2013 4:21:37 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: Theo
A black man almost killing a white man over some words is a “happy ending”? Really?

Why are you invoking race into this when the real story is some guy punching out an obnoxious loud mouthed drunk?

When I was growing up, lessons from such obnoxious behavior were learned rather quickly........

314 posted on 07/15/2013 4:29:27 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I ain't no cracker, I'm a white a$$ soda biscuit...)
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To: Theo
Uttering an offensive word is worse than almost killing the man?

I'm assuming "ALMOST" was your liberal interpretation? The drunk is still alive and hopefully he'll have learned a valuable lesson.

But considering the mindset of metros such as youself, charges will be likely brought against the "N*****" and the obnoxious drunk will be free to repeat his actions.......

I'm sure you're happy with that..........

315 posted on 07/15/2013 4:34:49 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I ain't no cracker, I'm a white a$$ soda biscuit...)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Um. Read the headline. Read the article. The story is about someone using the N-word, which a black man found offensive. This is about race.


316 posted on 07/15/2013 5:03:19 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

You have no idea who I am, and you call me a “metro”?

You have problems. Don’t take them out on me.


317 posted on 07/15/2013 5:05:25 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: dragnet2; Admin Moderator; All

Why did I get called out by an Admin Moderator on Saturday for saying this poster was acting like an idiot, and ASKING if he was drunk, but nothing happens when he calls someone a fool?

Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:28:47 PM · 128 of 317
Admin Moderator to Livin_large

Knock off the nonsense and post without calling the other poster names and insinuating they are drunk.

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318 posted on 07/15/2013 5:23:18 PM PDT by Livin_large
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