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Detroit. Bankrupt (Because Democrats didn't have the guts to say "No" to their largest voting bloc)
Townhall ^ | 07/19/2013 | Rich Galen

Posted on 07/19/2013 7:44:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The City of Detroit filed for bankruptcy yesterday afternoon. It owes as much as $20 billion, and there is no conceivable way that debt will ever be paid. The city offered its debtors 10 cents on the dollar, but the debtors refused.

A good deal of the blame -- rightly or wrongly -- will be placed at the feet of municipal workers -- sanitation, water, sewer, cops, firefighters and so on.

The pressure of ever-rising wages for no additional work, leading to ever-rising pension costs, plus ever-increasing benefits and ever more closely defined work rules will likely be found at the bottom of all this.

But it's not the unions' fault. It is the fault of the elected officials -- Democrats in Detroit -- who didn't have the guts to say "No" to their largest voting bloc.

It has been said that the difference between public and private unions is this: Private union leaders know that if their demands become too high, the company will go out of business and everyone will lose their job.

Public unions, until recently, just kept demanding, and getting, more and more while producing nothing new in terms of services they render. Union pensions tend to be so generous that taxpayers end up paying almost full wages to three or four workers, only one of whom is still actually working, to do exactly the same job that one person had been paid to do in an earlier age. According to some estimates, retirees outnumber active workers 2-1.

No amount of technology can move a public union to reduce its workforce.

Example: I stay in a small hotel in Dallas that used to have three people behind the registration desk. Some time ago the hotel installed kiosks into which you put your credit card and, voila, out came your room key card with a printed folder telling you the room number.

There remained only one person behind the registration desk to handle people who hadn't made a reservation in advance. Assuming there were two fully-staffed shifts a day, that means four people per day were no longer needed.

Those jobs are never coming back. The hotel is more profitable because, through technology, it has reduced its workforce by four people every day.

Public unions would never let that happen. If the hotel were a city like Detroit, the American Federation of Municipal Kiosk Workers would have demanded that every kiosk have an attendant. And the National Association of County Hotel Bill Sliders (AFL-CIO) would have demanded that at least two people remain on the payroll to change the paper in the room bill printer, even if no room bills are being printed any more.

The United Auto Workers based in Detroit has, for decades, had basically the same outlook as public unions. But auto manufacturers discovered it's a big country out there and they found that they could build factories in border and southern right-to-work states and produce cars for far less than the United Auto Workers were forcing them to pay in Detroit.

In a Forbes.com article from this past April, reporters Matt Patterson & Julia Tavlas wrote:

"As Reuters reports, in the past three decades nearly every job lost at U.S. car factories have vanished from unionized companies; meanwhile, job gains have come almost exclusively from non-union companies."

Car companies can move jobs to Tennessee or Mississippi, but Detroit can't move its sewer department to Arkansas or its cops to South Carolina. A broken water line in Detroit can't be repaired by a non-union employee working in San Antonio.

Again, I don't blame the union bosses. They did what their members paid them to do.

I blame the elected officials who never put the long-term financial health of their community ahead of their burning desire to be re-elected by pandering to the lowest common denominator.

There's more. Very often, when a municipal worker retires in a place like Detroit, he revs up the RV and heads to warmer climes. So the taxpayers of Detroit have to pay for 20 or 30 years of retirement for someone living (and spending that retirement money) in Florida or Arizona.

The city's population has dropped from almost two million in the 1950s to just under 700,000 who are paying 40 percent less in taxes just since 2000.

Fewer people paying less taxes to support more people doing less work.

Hey. Wait a minute. That sounds very familiar.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; bluezones; detroit; detroitbankrupcy; liberals; taxandspend
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1 posted on 07/19/2013 7:44:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I've been hearing stories about Detroit for two days now and NOT ONCE has anyone mentioned who controlled the town for five decades.
2 posted on 07/19/2013 7:47:05 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: Baynative

RE: NOT ONCE has anyone mentioned who controlled the town for five decades.

Well, there’s always a first time. You read it here first :)


3 posted on 07/19/2013 7:47:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

See, the problem is, they couldn’t fence the cows in.

They couldn’t force the people they were milking to stay and be milked.

If only they could force taxpayers to stay in the municipality, they could just raise taxes until they had everything they wanted paid for.


4 posted on 07/19/2013 7:48:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Baynative

I think if you took Detroit apart over the past thirty years....you could write a two-thousand page book on incompetence and fraud.


5 posted on 07/19/2013 7:48:41 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SeekAndFind

The future of the USA if present trends continue.


6 posted on 07/19/2013 7:49:06 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The forces of decadence are the forces of evil.)
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To: MrB
See, the problem is, they couldn’t fence the cows in.

What do you think Agenda 21 is all about?


7 posted on 07/19/2013 7:49:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yeppers.

If no one can buy or sell without the mark,
that has to entail a very well controlled populace.


8 posted on 07/19/2013 7:51:56 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind
I caught a blurb on Fox Business this morning that 47% of Detroit property taxes are delinquent. No one is paying the freight, anymore. Buh-bye.
9 posted on 07/19/2013 7:56:34 AM PDT by JPG (Obama Does Egypt.)
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To: MrB
If only they could force taxpayers to stay in the municipality, they could just raise taxes until they had everything they wanted paid for.

Oooh! Who's John Galt? They could just pass a law saying that people had to live out the twilight of their years in the local of the company that is paying their pension. If you move you lose your pension. That would work and fit Ayne Rand's 60 year old fictional story/prophecy.

(cynicism)

10 posted on 07/19/2013 7:57:27 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Politicians act like Wall Street execs, sell a product or concept that intitially benefits the first group but in the long run is unsustainable. Liar loans and its short term profits but long term destructive toxicity is no different then promises of unpaid benefits for immediate votes. Both (politicians and execs) know that by the time the system collapses, they already left town with their profits while those left behind are stuck holding the bag. Detroit and Wall Street collapse share a common theme. Immense short term profit for the schemers and diseaster for the majority in the long term. Until Americans find a way to deal with these schemers in a severe way, even free enterprise and democracy will not function nor survive.


11 posted on 07/19/2013 7:59:56 AM PDT by Fee
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To: SeekAndFind
...and there is no conceivable way that debt will ever be paid.

I can conceive of the Federal Government bailing them out. In fact that is quite possible if they aren't watched closely.

12 posted on 07/19/2013 8:04:09 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe the asshats in government should take econmics 101!
“The law of diminishing returns is a classic economic concept that states that as more investment in an area is made, overall return on that investment increases at a declining rate, assuming that all variables remain fixed. To continue to make an investment after a certain point (which varies from context to context) is to receive a decreasing return on that input.”


13 posted on 07/19/2013 8:08:58 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SeekAndFind

Detroit is a toilet and they’re simply reaping what they have sown.


14 posted on 07/19/2013 8:10:03 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: SeekAndFind

The City of Detroit filed for bankruptcy yesterday afternoon
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Perhaps one of the most predictable events of all time. lol


15 posted on 07/19/2013 8:10:42 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve heard it said on talk radio that Detroit should be bulldozed into the ground. I think I’ve got a better idea. Put a fence around it and make it a National Monument dedicated to what the unions have done for America.


16 posted on 07/19/2013 8:12:45 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Keep your powder dry.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The creditors deserve a fair bit of blame themselves. They knew the city would never be able to pay the bills but they kept lending with every intent that a federal bailout would take care of them. They had the power to force fiscal responsibility but didn’t.

I just wish creditors of other cities would stop letting those cities accumulate debt. Many much larger cities will get federal bailouts but I’m certainly going to oppose it for Detroit.

I would however give the creditors vacant land. They would find a means of making it salable at minimal cost.


17 posted on 07/19/2013 8:14:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Maybe we can ask the folks at Hiroshima to buy up the properties in the city and make something out of it...


18 posted on 07/19/2013 8:14:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: FlingWingFlyer

19 posted on 07/19/2013 8:15:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Starboard

20 posted on 07/19/2013 8:15:04 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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