Posted on 07/27/2013 10:15:35 PM PDT by South40
A 95-year-old resident of an Illinois nursing home died early Saturday, hours after being shocked with a Taser and bean bag rounds in a confrontation with police.
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Yep, it doesn’t matter much to the fellow who died. But for the rest of us, we need to keep cleaning up the messes we make, because as bad as things are now, they’d be a whole lot worse, for everybody, if we didn’t at least try to set things right.
I took the opportunity to mock Hillary, nothing more. You’re right to wait.
I see they have begun implementation of Obamacare.
They may have chosen the wrong method, but having been gassed myself in the military and seeing what it temporarily did to some young, healthy men in terms of breathing, it could easily kill a 95-year-old guy.
I’m saying ANY method could kill an old guy, especially if he had a bad heart, which is likely.
I’m sorry but I’d have a huge problem with going Rambo on a 95 year old guy in a nursing home, ‘12’ inch knife” or not.
There’s *always* another, perhaps less “easy” way if you’ll bother to look for it.
This was wholly unnecessary.
Or there's something wrong with the resident.
Exactly. The kitchen is supposed to be locked at all times when no one is there. Knives are not taken up on the floors from the kitchen. We NEVER allowed patients in the kitchen nor for that matter in any space where hazards could be picked up. The nursing homes I worked in also did room checks especially on patients known to hoard things like lighters or anything that could harm themselves or others.
I worked in maintenance and I kept all my tool very near me at all times around patients. When I was out of the shop the door was locked. I've works on Memory Care floors. For that matter I visit one twice a week my sister is in. I can not imagine a patient there getting a weapon unless it came in from the outside. Things like that do happen too.
The patients are the facilities responsibility to ensure their safety. This incident will not likely go well for about a half dozen persons in the management. It could close the facility and some professional licensing be terminated.
That is not that uncommon. The CNA was smart and likely knew to get a worker the patient interacted well with. With Dementia several things can be happening. One is the medications. The other is them either not recognizing or misrecognizing someone. The patient may have thought the male CNA {Orderly} was her son or husband. Night time changes behavior and full moons even more so.
I had one patient I had to pay a visit too every night with an empty box. She refused to go to bed until the snakes were gone. I'd take the box to her room, a CNA would distract her long enough for me to toss a screwdriver into the box and shake it and say OK I've got it. She was fine then.
Another thing is over the last 18 years laws have changed and physical restraints in most states are forbidden. That law has likely killed more patients than any other cause.
Antidepressants can do it. They can bring on an adverse reaction called Serotonin Syndrome most doctors and nurses do not recognize. No not even Shrinks catch on.
About 12 years ago my wife was placed on Trazodone and Zoloft. My wife is a quadriplegic with limited arms and hand strength and no leg usage. She took the medications for PTSD, depression, and anxiety. After a week or two she went psychotic. She thought she was an angel. She also beat herself black and blue. Six doctors in two hospitals did not catch it. Rather they didn't do their pharmacology look ups on her medications. I did though.
Drugs like Valium, Xanax, etc are far safer for Geriatric care IMO but thanks to the media hype doctors are scared to write them long term. My wife was also on Xanax and that was what likely saved her life as it is the countering medication to stop the Serotonin Migration. She's a 28 year user of it and I'm a 19 year user of Xanax on a daily basis.
Can I please steal your quote? It’s tagline material. :)
;-)
You must run a tight ship.
Should I ever live to be as old as the dude in question, I'd like to think I'd still be able to defeat your security in a heartbeat.
Pttthhh!!! (Thanks)
Tagline change...
Say “hello” to Obama’s National Civilian Security Force.
Here’s another one 2ndDV...thankfully this man didn’t die!
Cigarettes Can Kill: Florida Deputies Shoot Man Looking for a Smoke in His Own Driveway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3049194/posts
Or swatting people-—making a naked ten year old stand next to his 4 year old sister-—as “retaliation”?
http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/07/25/59700.htm
Courthouse News / By Rose Bouboushian
Lawsuit: SWAT Officers Dragged 10-Year-Old from Bathtub, Made Him Stand Naked Next to 4-Year-Old Sister, Terrorized Family
14 police officers with helmets and facemasks and assault rifles stormed in, family says.
July 26, 2013
Pittsburgh SWAT officers must face claims that they raided a family’s home, violently dragged a child from the bathtub, and “terrorized” them at gunpoint, a federal judge ruled.
Georgeia Moreno and her family sued Pittsburgh, its police chief and 14 police officers in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania.
The events unfolded as Georgeia, her husband, William; and her stepfather, Mark Staymates were watching television in their living room as Georgia’s sick mother, Darlene, slept upstairs at 7 p.m. on Dec. 7, 2010. They suddenly heard a loud explosion and saw bright lights, “as if grenades were going off,” the complaint states.
Pittsburgh Police SWAT officers wearing helmets and facemasks then broke and “stormed through” the front and back doors of the home, according to the complaint.
Those officers allegedly never identified themselves, pointed assault rifles at the family, shouted obscenities and destroyed their property.
Although the team purportedly sought to arrest William for quarreling with a drunk, off-duty police officer at a local veterans club early that morning, the family says that their “terrorization” continued for another 45 minutes after William was apprehended.
The officers threw to the floor, kicked and handcuffed Georgeia, her stepfather and her adult son Billy. They also injured Mark’s shoulder and forced Billy to lie face down in broken glass, according to the complaint.
When Georgeia pleaded repeatedly that she had young children in the house, at least one officer allegedly stated, “You think you can get one of ours, and we won’t get one of yours?”
The family says the police proceeded to drag Georgeia’s 10-year-old son Trentino violently from the bathtub, injuring his ankles. They allegedly then made the boy stand naked at gunpoint next to his 4-year-old sister Briseis.
Officers have continued to harass and threaten the family since the raid, telling them “that’s how we do things here” and that they should move out of Pittsburgh, the complaint states.
The family asserts claims for violations of their Fourth and 14th amendment rights and seeks $50,000 in damages.
U.S. District Judge Nora Barry Fischer refused to dismiss the case Monday, holding that the plaintiffs’ claims are not time-barred, and the officers knew or should have known that the action would be brought against them.
She noted discrepancies with claims from the SWAT defendants that they were not notified of the action within 120 days, i.e. by Sept. 9, 2012.
This claims is belied by Officer Michael Reddy’s answer, which was filed on July 11, 2012, and “contained specific facts about the Dec. 7, 2010, raid of which defendant Reddy later testified he had no personal knowledge,” Fischer wrote (emphasis in original).
“Reddy’s answer contains other statements regarding facts that would have been only known to the SWAT team members involved in the initial raid,” the judge added. “Yet, his answer also avers that in response to certain SWAT team allegations, ‘after reasonable investigation,’ he was without sufficient knowledge to answer. Given these details, it appears that defense counsel may have secured information from other sources, likely the SWAT officers involved in the raid, to craft defendant Reddy’s answer.”
Fischer also tossed aside Officer Carl Morosetti’s claim that he solely arrested William and did not participate in the actual raid.
“If the court accepts plaintiffs’ factual allegations as true and considers them in their favor, as the court must do at the motion to dismiss stage, then plaintiffs have alleged sufficient facts to support a §1983 claim against Morosetti,” Fischer wrote. “Once discovery has concluded, Morosetti can renew his arguments, if appropriate, at the summary judgment stage.”
Fact discovery will close on Aug. 5, the judgment states.
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