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Rand Paul Defends Principle of Immigration Amnesty: "Do They Want Them in Concentration Camps?"
Reason ^ | 07/01/2013 | Brian Doherty

Posted on 08/02/2013 11:28:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: massgopguy
La Raza will become the largest political party in the United States.

And those idiots in both parties have not seen agitation, corruption and utter meanness when La Raza becomes so large. The Dem party will be overrun with people who believe that bribery is a family value.

101 posted on 08/02/2013 2:08:41 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: Moltke
Even back in 2003 Mexico's GDP was around $700 bln, currently close to $1200 bln. That '30% of GDP' claim was just silly. OK, carry on then...

Perhaps Tancredo misremembered what he was told. But I have accurately reported the quote that was in the article. I report, you decide.

In any event, I don't think it materially changes the main issue (and well known fact) that Mexico actively encourages its citizens to illegally move to the US.

102 posted on 08/02/2013 2:09:04 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: opentalk

It’s closer to 30 million, and through chain migration will swell to something like 90 million. Overwhelmingly big government-voting and low-skill into their third or fourth generation here, at least—if not always.


103 posted on 08/02/2013 2:17:29 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Maceman

Yes, that’s why I said ‘small side note.’ Off topic, if you will.

(Seriously, though: If Tancredo ‘misremembered what he was told’ (as you suggest) his ‘does this make sense?’ skills must be close to zero. A country with 110+ mln population and abundent natural resources (oil!) has a GDP of only $30 bln? Knock, knock, hello McFly? That improbability just *has* to be obvious to anyone with any (economic) sense at all. (Which is why I looked up the figures back then in the first place - it just jumps out at you as wholly unrealistic. Like Gore claiming millions of degrees for the earth’s center; ‘Guam tipping over’, etc. etc. - politicians making idiotic statements)) No offense to you.

OK, carry on with the thread then.


104 posted on 08/02/2013 2:49:27 PM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

You either DEPORT illegals or its AMNESTY

If you deport them...no one is gonna put them in camps.


105 posted on 08/02/2013 4:24:04 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Difference between George Zimmerman and Al Sharpton is that Sharpton woulda let honky family burn)
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To: SeekAndFind

on buses, and send them back home? I don’t think anyone’s proposing that.”

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absolutely.


106 posted on 08/02/2013 4:26:04 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: The Great RJ

we already have a legal work status, called a GREEN CARD.

Enforce our current laws.


107 posted on 08/02/2013 4:28:13 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: SeekAndFind

“What about the teenagers who were brought here illegally as very young kids? We pull them out of...schools... and send them back to the place they’ve never known as home, right?”

Yes.


108 posted on 08/03/2013 1:54:59 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Operation Wetback uses the name “Wetback” which was a derogatory term applied to Mexicans laborers, both legal and illegal.

One of the biggest issues with the program was the deportation of Mexicans to unfamiliar places, where they would struggle to find their way home or support their families."

Gosh. You mean that when foreign nationals broke our laws then things happened to them that they didn't like?

Good. It's way past time to do it again, on a much larger scale so that we can get California back.

109 posted on 08/03/2013 8:59:32 PM PDT by Pelham (Deportation is the law. When it's not enforced you get California)
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To: SeekAndFind; lowbridge; Gator113

“What about the teenagers who were taken here illegally as very young kids? We pull them out of the schools they’ve been attending and send them back to the place they’ve never known as home, right?”

They will have to ask their lawbreaker parents why they chose to put them into such a precarious position.

Hardships happen all the time to innocent kids whose parents break the law.

Do you get all weepy-eyed over American kids whose lawbreaking parents wreck their lives?

Or do you only care about kids whose parents are foreign nationals breaking American law?


110 posted on 08/03/2013 9:05:24 PM PDT by Pelham (Deportation is the law. When it's not enforced you get California)
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To: Zuse
We have been lied to for many years by politicians of both parties as well as the Chamber of Commerce. They have used smoke and mirrors to distort the facts in this issue. It may be possible that we cannot remove all of the illegals in this country but our purpose should be to remove as many as is possible. Our policy should be based on what is good for Americans, not illegal aliens. The compassion and consideration should go to US and OUR KIDS. For years we have been coerced into crying a river for every illegal in this country while turning a blind eye to many Americans who are genuinely being hurt by illegal immigration.

At the beginning of this discussion it should be made clear that we have to put Americans first then we can come up with real practical solutions. The basic idea should be to make it difficult for them to earn a living or get welfare, then many will self deport. People who came here illegally when they were children should be told that they have to go to a immigration lawyer and they have to pay for it with their own money.

Also, no more of this crying because we are “splitting up families”. What a crock! Every immigrant splits from his family to come to America, not just illegal immigrants. We have to get the message out that they are no better than the real immigrants and they will have to part with their family members. It is painful to part with your family and neighbors and leave for a totally new country but millions of people, including my family had to do this. Illegals from Mexico and Central America are more fortunate than immigrants from the eastern hemisphere since they can simply drive down to Mexico during vacation season.

111 posted on 08/04/2013 5:49:43 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Nea Wood
The pro-illegal lobby is very skilled at pulling the wool over our eyes. Example; sending kids of illegals back to their home country. There are large numbers of legal immigrants who change their minds and then return to their home country taking their Americanized children with them. You never hear anything about them. The kids are probably not happy about going to live in their parents native land but they have to go back home with them. When it is an illegal alien kid—cue the violins, bring out a box of super absorbent kleenex. It is going to be the great tragic drama all over the media—ad nauseum.
112 posted on 08/04/2013 6:00:24 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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