Rand Paul Defends Principle of Immigration Amnesty: "Do They Want Them in Concentration Camps?"

Reason ^ | 07/01/2013 | Brian Doherty

[Jim Noble]

“Are they for sending these people home? Do they want us to put them in concentration camps, on buses, and send them back home? I don’t think anyone’s proposing that.”

Well, they have to go SOMEWHERE before they make the trip home...

"Concentration camps" sounds so 20th Century. Call them "Processing Centers".

[null and void]

So you want them doing better than we currently do?

Close. I want us to be the country worthy of inspiring them. I want them to go home and make their own counties ones that can inspire the citizens of their neighboring countries.

I want personal liberty and wealth to spread world wide by example and desire.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: “Concentration camps” sounds so 20th Century. Call them “Processing Centers”.

Also, you don’t have to detain them indefinitely.

Those in concentration camps would gladly want to GO HOME. And THAT is exactly what we’d be doing for them.

So, how is it even a concentration camp?

[plsjr]

Corrupt politicians’ amnesty interests are bought by employers who want cheap labor and have no concern for national sovereignty...

and of course it plays into the one world government mindset.

The issue has a wide array of forces that couldn’t care less about the U.S. of A. (or want to destroy us). This obviously includes a large number of the 'party on the right'.

I’m thinking if U.S. Citizens could repudiate ‘the powers that be’ and walk away from the federal reserve we might be able to reverse course...

No? ... I can dream, can’t I?

[Georgia Girl 2]

Somebody tell Rand that a bunch of them have already gone home. If there is nothing here for them they go on home on their own.

I really like Rand Paul on almost every issue but he just doesn’t seem to get it on immigration. I think he just feels like he cannot win the presidency if he advocates agains’t it.

[EinNYC]

Another one of these pro-illegal turncoats? Shut the heck up, Rand Paul. You are now in the same esteemed league as Rubio. What part of "illegal" do you not understand? Our economy is crap, there is heavy unemployment, and YOU want to allow these low skilled, prolific, disease-ridden vermin (where do you think the latest bagged salads causing gastroenteritis came from?) to stay in this country? While, at the same time, you are doing NOTHING to keep more of their ilk from coming right in, illegally? They flaunt the laws of our sovereign nation and you want to reward them? As for tearing their American-born children from schools and thrusting them back into a country they don't know? It would be difficult for the first batch, but if this is consistently what happens, they will think twice before coming over and having kids to illegally use already-scarce resources in our schools. The kids already here will suffer, sure, but they will act as a lesson not to do this any more. Let them eventually apply on their own to immigrate LEGALLY. The illegals will have brought the suffering on their OWN kids--we didn't force them to enter our country outside of the law.

Toss them BACK and prevent any more from coming in. Or give up calling us a nation and add to the stock of jokes other countries already tell about us.

[publius911]

What’s the effort, cost (including court cases ) and law enforcement officers involved....

If you are not familiar with Operation Wetback, 1954, perhaps you could still learn something.
There were NO court cases.
As for law enforcement officers' expense. I would rather spend the money, whatever the cost, to a geometrically increasing population of mobs inimical to our basic system, most criminally inclined, embedded in a corrupt culture which propagates endlessly for generations as far as the imagination can grasp.

I would agree to exceptions for families who are demonstrably self sustaining for at least two generations, haven't bred any gang-bangers, not recipients of any kind of ongoing taxpayer-funded aid, and not benefitting from special financial privileges not enjoyed by regular non-welfare citizens.

[null and void]

You forgot the "sarcasm" tag.
Presently, that is not an image of the U.S. social and political system.

Nope.
I said precisely what I want.

That's steps 1 and 2. Step 0 is us being the country worthy of emulation.

But thank you for noting that we aren't today...

[null and void]

"Concentration camps" sounds so 20th Century. Call them "Processing Centers".

I rather fancy Gator113's term "sleepover places"

[SeekAndFind]

RE: There were NO court cases.

That was THEN. This is NOW.

We WILL have court cases with the grievance industry tying up the courts for a long time.

[publius911]

I think THAT is exactly what Rand Paul is trying to say.

Nothing personal. You may or may not be a complete idiot, but I prefer to hear it from him. Is English Rand's second Language? If not, why does he need an interpreter?

[Gator113]

;>)

[SeekAndFind]

That is why I added the CAVEAT — “I think”.

[publius911]

What about the teenagers who were taken here illegally as very young kids? We pull them out of the schools they’ve been attending and send them back to the place they’ve never known as home, right?

That's inhumane.
But it's their choice. Find legal relatives to live with and remain here, or travel with their loving illegal family and continue using the language they already know, into their normal loving country with their supportive reliable family.

[GeronL]

Giving $300 million to radical leftist groups and giving foreigners the right to forge a couple of passports is the only alternative to “concentration camps”??

Hyperbolic much?

[publius911]

We WILL have court cases with the grievance industry tying up the courts for a long time.

Circular reasoning.
Stop the taxpayer-funded grievance industry, and problem solved.

If the illegals could fund the grievance industry, they would not need the plethora of welfare benefits.

[dennisw]

this immigratiion cave in shyte never ends...no one is immune

[duffee]

I want them in their own country and yes, I’m against Rand Paul’s solution which is amnesty and I believe he would have voted for the amnesty bill had he not seen what was happening to rubio.

[duffee]

no concentration camp, just send thwem home. Except the ones who have prison time or executions coming, send them home after their sentence is served or enforced.

[Jim Noble]

What about the teenagers who were taken here illegally as very young kids? We pull them out of the schools they’ve been attending and send them back to the place they’ve never known as home, right?

Uh, yes, that's the general idea.

What's the alternative? Make slaves of you and your children to pay for their free sh*t until the end of time?

We owe them NOTHING, other than reasonable care that they don't starve or die of exposure in custody.

Honestly, do you want to pay for their upkeep beyond that?