Rand Paul Defends Principle of Immigration Amnesty: "Do They Want Them in Concentration Camps?"

Reason ^ | 07/01/2013 | Brian Doherty

[Maceman]

In July 2003, then-congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Colorado)gave Insight Magazine the following account of his conversation in Mexico with Juan Hernandez, head of the newly created Ministry of Mexicans Living in the United States. According to Mr. Tancredo:

“I asked about the purpose of the government agency he heads, since I had never heard of such a thing. He said its purpose is to increase the flow of Mexican nationals to the United States. I asked, ‘Why?’

"’It serves Mexico's needs,’ he said, and ticked off a list of such things as remittances to Mexico of $10 billion a year, which is 30 percent of the Mexican GDP [gross domestic product]. It provides employment for an exploding population, it alleviates social instability due to rising unemployment and it provides training for Mexicans, ultimately repatriating those skills back to Mexico.

"I responded to his final aim - repatriation of trained and skilled Mexicans back into Mexico - and asked, ‘Then your government would oppose amnesty for the illegal Mexicans in the United States?’

"He cried, ‘Oh no! We support amnesty totally. . . . by populating the United States with millions of Hispanics who are tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico, we are able to exert enormous influence and pressure on U.S. policy and its dealings with Mexico.’

"President Vicente Fox believes the U.S. border is a figment of the imagination. In fact, Fox and/or members of his government stated at one point that the borders of Mexico extend much farther north than currently drawn on the map.”

[VietVet]

Yes, I want them to go home, to their own countries.

[no-to-illegals]

That’s because you are the enemy. You are an American, as is your family. Your point is valid ... am as frustrated as you are.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Would the Mexican government give me welfare, educate and feed my children, and then offer me a chance to become a Mexican citizen?

I don’t freakin’ THINK SO.

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I guess you’re saying that the Mexican government will arrest the entire family and forcibly send them home.

Is that your solution for the millions who are here?

[WayneS]

No. I want them to return to their home countries and then, if they wish to live here, I want them to follow the LEGAL immigration procedures for moving to the United States.

Why is that so hard for politicians to understand?

[zeestephen]

Re: “They’re not going home.”

Oh, really?

Perhaps you should try ENFORCING our current Immigration Laws?

(1) 100% E-Verify.

(2) Employer sanctions.

(3) Civil lawsuits against illegal employers.

(4) No welfare or Medicaid for illegal aliens.

When they have no jobs, no place to live, and no food, they will SELF-DEPORT.

Rand - you are an Open Borders Libertarian.

Your immigration policy, and your deceit, will destroy the Republican Party.

I will never vote for you.

If you are the GOP nominee, I will stay home.

[The Great RJ]

Give them some legal status to work here, but absolutely no Medicaid, food stamps, welfare, free Obama phones etc. If their kids are in public schools they should pay tuition or let private groups give them scholarships. No path to citizenship for at least a decade and no voting for 20 years. Any illegal who commits a crime should be sent to jail and then immediately deported including all his family. Illegals who fail to register should face serious jail time and I am in favor of detention camps...make them basically humane but no place anyone would want to stay. Those deported but who sneak back should face big jail time and their families should be permanently barred from entering the US even as tourists.

[Irenic]

Nope, I just want them to go home.

[WayneS]

No. It is a CLAIM that has been repeated so often, by so many political cowards on both sides of the aisle, and by the left-wing media, that it is now treated as fact (by them).

[traditional1]

Put ‘em on busses and send them home, or, Concentration Camps (really, Prisons for their Illegal presence), are bot FINE with me....just get the Illegals back where they came from, and take those kids they dropped here with them, because Foreigners dropping babies to become “Automatic U.S. Citizens” is stupidity on its face.

[publius911]

Rand Paul Defends Principle of Immigration Amnesty: "Do They Want Them in Concentration Camps?"

Typical extremist doofus. Are there two of these guys? The one that's rational and this insane one?

Concentration Camps or Free citizenship reward for criminal behavior are the only two choices?

I just can't help remembering simpler times, and clearly simpler decisions. Politicians, choose... the citizens you represent? or a monumentally expensive invading army with and attitude?

I am fluent in Spanish, but I refuse to play that game; I'l just say, YES, WE CAN!!

OPERATION WETBACK
(Original Official name of the Federal operation.)

During the 1950s, however, this "Good Old Boy" system changed under Eisenhower - if only for about 10 years.

In 1954, Ike appointed retired Gen. Joseph "Jumpin' Joe" Swing, a former West Point classmate and veteran of the 101st Airborne, as the new INS commissioner.

Influential politicians, including Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D) of Texas and Sen. Pat McCarran (D) of Nevada, favored open borders, and were dead set against strong border enforcement, Brownell said. But General Swing's close connections to the president shielded him - and the Border Patrol - from meddling by powerful political and corporate interests.

One of Swing's first decisive acts was to transfer certain entrenched immigration officials out of the border area to other regions of the country where their political connections with people such as Senator Johnson would have no effect.

Then on June 17, 1954, what was called "Operation Wetback" began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day.
By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.

By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas.

By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.

Now, to me, that's in the neighborhood of 1,200,000 in three months.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Give them some legal status to work here, but absolutely no Medicaid, food stamps, welfare, free Obama phones etc.

I think THAT is exactly what Rand Paul is trying to say.

I read somewhere that he referred to a program that worked in the past that was sabotaged by the Cesar Chavez supported unions called the Bracero Program.

[Feckless]

Put a $50 bounty on ‘em and we’ll get rid of them AND lower the unemployment rate.

[WayneS]

Yes. Yes I am.

[Ingtar]

Yes, if it is a stop on the way out of the country.

[opentalk]

The 11 million number has been repeated for years by politicians and MSM, wonder what the real number is and would increase to with the open boarder policies.

Doesnt bode well for citizens competing for jobs, will add to Obamacare and debt problems

[Appollo9919]

Works for me

[Maceman]

I guess you’re saying that the Mexican government will arrest the entire family and forcibly send them home. Is that your solution for the millions who are here?

Pretty much. Send Mexico the bill (see my post #21). But we don't have to deport them all. Make it difficult/impossible for them to function here and they will self deport.

We should also spend money running advertising campaigns in Spanish in Mexico telling people why it is a mistake to come to America illegally.

By the way, do they have to press 1 for Spanish in Mexico?

BTW, I don't mean to pick on Mexico, as not all illegals are of Mexican origin. But you get my point.

Oh, one more thing. We should also stop buying Absolut Vodka.

[Ingtar]

... to peacefully change their native countries into wealthy, friendly, ‘good neighbor’ countries run by honest and wise representatives elected in a fair and open process.

So you want them doing better than we currently do?

[opentalk]

Correction ..border