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1 posted on 08/02/2013 11:28:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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There are some who are innocent and victims in this mess and should be treated as they are, just as all the rest should be, including the politicians and officials who created and enabled this mess and allowed it to get this bad.

There are many examples we need to set by our intent and actions while settling this issue and cleaning up the mess that's been made.

Let's make certain we each will want to be judged accordingly for all that we do here when our test is finally over, rather than fear that Judgment.

41 posted on 08/02/2013 11:49:22 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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“They’re not going home,” Paul said, adding that even the most vocal opponents of so-called “amnesty” seem to recognize this fact. “Are they for sending these people home? Do they want us to put them in concentration camps, on buses, and send them back home? I don’t think anyone’s proposing that.”

Don't accept his premise, so the rest of his position doesn't make sense.

Enforce the laws, they will go home. PERIOD.

42 posted on 08/02/2013 11:49:33 AM PDT by skeeter
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If people come here illegally that’s their problem. They have to endure the conseqences.

Rand Paul is all hot air when it comes to criticism of big govt since his support for illegals will expand the welfare state.


48 posted on 08/02/2013 11:55:07 AM PDT by RginTN
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I want them all home in time for Christmas. It’s the loving thing to do. ;>)


51 posted on 08/02/2013 12:00:50 PM PDT by Gator113
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” “They’re not going home,””

They would if we cut off their taxpayer paid freebies and aggressively punish those who hire them.


52 posted on 08/02/2013 12:01:21 PM PDT by lowbridge
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Actually, non-climate controlled jails in Nevada would be my choice, but concentration camps have a friendly ring to them.

Want to solve this problem? Here is how.

1. Close the entire southern border with National Guard troops. Then choose One county in Arizona.

2. Announce a 7 day moratorium for all illegals in the county to leave the country. Anyone illegally in the county at that time will be arrested and detained prior to deportation.

3. Any real property owned by arrested illegals will be taken by the county including homes, cars, etc.

4. Any illegal resisting arrest will be shot.

5. Choose your next county. You won't find anyone there.

54 posted on 08/02/2013 12:02:25 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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Do they want us to put them in concentration camps,

YES! Right after the U.S. Senators who vote for AMNESTY!
55 posted on 08/02/2013 12:03:37 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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you mean like where they’d put me if I entered Mexico illegally?


57 posted on 08/02/2013 12:05:11 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I don’t buy the premise that they won’t go home. In fact many have gone home since the economy crashed, so we know that under certain conditions they will chose to deport themselves.

You don’t need buses or concentration camps or other cartoonish things. You need policies that create an incentive for them to go home. E.g. Make it hard for them to get drivers licenses and access social services and rent apartments and put their kids in school, and make it hard for employers to hire them.

When Paul says they’re not leaving what he really means is we don’t have the will to pressure them to leave. What’s interesting is that the unwillingness is concentrated in the political class, not the general public.


58 posted on 08/02/2013 12:05:23 PM PDT by Yardstick
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“Do they want us to put them in concentration camps......”

Seattle has gotten rid of the term, “brown bag”....can’t we toss the term, “concentration camps”? Perhaps we could call them, “sleepover places” and provide them with ‘white bag’ lunches..


59 posted on 08/02/2013 12:05:47 PM PDT by Gator113
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I love it when someone who knows nothing about immigration destroys himself trying to embarrass others on the issue.

Mr. Paul, if you take away the freebies, the government support, the ability to live five famlies in a one family abode, you’ll have these people return to the nation of their origin voluntarily.

Entender?


60 posted on 08/02/2013 12:05:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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“Are they for sending these people home? Do they want us to put them in concentration camps, on buses, and send them back home? I don’t think anyone’s proposing that.”

Well, they have to go SOMEWHERE before they make the trip home...

"Concentration camps" sounds so 20th Century. Call them "Processing Centers".

61 posted on 08/02/2013 12:08:27 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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Corrupt politicians’ amnesty interests are bought by employers who want cheap labor and have no concern for national sovereignty...

and of course it plays into the one world government mindset.

The issue has a wide array of forces that couldn’t care less about the U.S. of A. (or want to destroy us). This obviously includes a large number of the 'party on the right'.

I’m thinking if U.S. Citizens could repudiate ‘the powers that be’ and walk away from the federal reserve we might be able to reverse course...

No? ... I can dream, can’t I?

64 posted on 08/02/2013 12:13:24 PM PDT by plsjr (<>< Mankind "knows" by trial and error; Only the CREATOR really knows his creation.)
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Somebody tell Rand that a bunch of them have already gone home. If there is nothing here for them they go on home on their own.

I really like Rand Paul on almost every issue but he just doesn’t seem to get it on immigration. I think he just feels like he cannot win the presidency if he advocates agains’t it.


65 posted on 08/02/2013 12:13:34 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Giving $300 million to radical leftist groups and giving foreigners the right to forge a couple of passports is the only alternative to “concentration camps”??

Hyperbolic much?


75 posted on 08/02/2013 12:33:28 PM PDT by GeronL
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this immigratiion cave in shyte never ends...no one is immune


77 posted on 08/02/2013 12:36:55 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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Twitter your thoughts on Amnesty to this prick; @SenRandPaul


85 posted on 08/02/2013 12:52:12 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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Yes, they are going home if we make them. We’re supposed to be held hostage by invaders who break into our country and then say, “We’re not going home”? I don’t think so. They don’t get to say what they are or are not doing, any more than any other criminal gets to call the shots. All we need is the will to make them go home, as soon as we get over our terror of being called a name.


87 posted on 08/02/2013 1:29:03 PM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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I want to send them back, yes. And charge it against our debt to that country.


88 posted on 08/02/2013 1:34:06 PM PDT by mykroar (China and Russia are playing chess while Obamas's playing 52 card pick-up.)
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Who are “they” of whom you speak, Senator Paul? The people who worked to get you elected perhaps? Keep poking them with Juan McCain’s twisted stick and you might find “they” aren’t there for you during your 2016 re-election campaign. Then you can retire and lay on a beach somewhere sharing Taco Bell takeout with Marco Rubio.


90 posted on 08/02/2013 1:46:09 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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