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Edward Snowden is a patriot
Politico ^

Posted on 08/11/2013 6:30:03 PM PDT by chessplayer

Does President Barack Obama think we’re stupid?

That’s the only conclusion possible after watching Friday’s bravura performance in which the president announced a set of proposals meant to bring more transparency to the National Security Agency — and claimed he would have done it anyway, even if Edward Snowden had never decided to leak thousands of highly sensitive documents to The Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald.

But even as he grudgingly admitted that the timing, at least, of his suggestions was a consequence of Snowden’s actions, the president declared, “I don’t think Mr. Snowden was a patriot.” When you look at what has changed over the past two months, though, it’s hard not to wonder, “What could be more patriotic than what Snowden did?”

First, the results: More than a dozen bills have already been introduced to put a stop to the NSA’s mass phone record collection program and to overhaul the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which has reinterpreted the Fourth Amendment in secret, creating a body of privacy law that the public has never read. A half-dozen new privacy lawsuits have been filed against the NSA. The Pentagon is undergoing an unprecedented secrecy audit. U.S. officials have been caught deceiving or lying to Congress. The list goes on.

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41 posted on 08/11/2013 7:58:15 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: chessplayer; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; Liz; ...
RE:”Does President Barack Obama think we’re stupid?
That’s the only conclusion possible after watching Friday’s bravura performance in which the president announced a set of proposals meant to bring more transparency to the National Security Agency — and claimed he would have done it anyway, even if Edward Snowden had never decided to leak thousands of highly sensitive documents to The Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald.
But even as he grudgingly admitted that the timing, at least, of his suggestions was a consequence of Snowden’s actions, the president declared, “I don’t think Mr. Snowden was a patriot.” When you look at what has changed over the past two months, though, it’s hard not to wonder, “What could be more patriotic than what Snowden did?”

Politico dissing Obama? Tell me it aint so.

Yes, Obama was going to do this ANYWAY even if there was no Snowden.
And you can keep your doctor and health insurance policy too. And it cuts the deficit.

42 posted on 08/11/2013 8:00:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: blaquebyrd
Have you served in the ME? ME Savages raise their kids to think of only one divine goal, kill Americans. They are serious, determined and yes as 911 proved successful. Snowden and his American enablers play right into Putins hands. It's disgusting to see Putin praised on Free Republic.

I have, and you know something — I can respect what Snowden did.
The oath all military men take (you, me, & him) is to the Constitution. Period.
If the government is violating the Constitution then they are breaking the law.
And if they break the law, why should the law protect them? Indeed, can the law legitimately protect unlawful activity?

43 posted on 08/11/2013 8:00:48 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: txhurl

No.


44 posted on 08/11/2013 8:01:22 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: blaquebyrd

From eastern Europe to Africa, the criminal organization calling itself our federal government is using good men and women in the military to strengthen the enemies of the American people. Those who keep their mouth shut and cover for them are just as guilty.


45 posted on 08/11/2013 8:02:01 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: txhurl
" The folks who want Snowden hanged are very ‘interesting’ in their freeping habits."

Yeah as quiet as it's kept I hear they are actually, and you didn't hear it from me--PATRIOTS who didn't hand their country's secrets over to the Russian president. All of you Putin boot lickers should join your traitorous hero in Russia.

46 posted on 08/11/2013 8:02:04 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: Donnafrflorida

“until its proven he shared data that compromises us security”

BINGO~!


47 posted on 08/11/2013 8:03:53 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: chessplayer

Scoundrels pretending patriots always wrap themselves in the flag. Now they wrap themselves in the Office!


48 posted on 08/11/2013 8:05:18 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: pterional
I’m not sure that we learned anything new from Snowden except confirmation that the US Government is collecting data, emails and recording telephone calls on US citizens.

The US Government is collecting data, emails, etc., without probable cause or a warrant. The the NSA is passing that information to other government agencies. I was not aware of the extent until Snowden squealed.

49 posted on 08/11/2013 8:05:28 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: freedomfiter2

Russian and Putin are our enemy. You think Snowden’s intel isn’t being shared with America’s enemies?


50 posted on 08/11/2013 8:05:50 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
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51 posted on 08/11/2013 8:06:12 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: blaquebyrd

Sure wish you could make an appealing argument to me.


52 posted on 08/11/2013 8:09:22 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: chessplayer

Amy of Amy’s Bakery Company makes more sense in her guest appearance this evening than these saber waving would-be Snowden executioners, I tell ya!


53 posted on 08/11/2013 8:11:46 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: blaquebyrd

Many conservatives are sadly all screwed up too!


54 posted on 08/11/2013 8:12:49 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: blaquebyrd
How did NSA’s downloading hundreds of millions Americans’ emails, texts. etc., prevent Boston, Fort Hood, Benghazi? The NSA is downloading and storing information on American Citizens without probable cause without warrant. It is then passing this information to other government agencies. That is not what you and your fellow Soldiers fought for.
55 posted on 08/11/2013 8:13:13 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: gaijin

Thomas Drake and William Binney didn’t leave the country. They’re still alive and not in jail.


56 posted on 08/11/2013 8:14:18 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: txhurl
Sure wish you'd join your commie boot lickin hero in Russia.
57 posted on 08/11/2013 8:19:20 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: chessplayer

Snowden is a patriot!! He unmasked the NSA like no one else has
Only downside is that Obama intentionally forced him to seek asylum in Russia where Putin will get every single NSA intel he has. I predict NSA will be wailing for more billions in “black” funding from Congress to fix this Russia situation with Russia now knowing (virtually) everything and being able to piece together the rest.
How stupid greedy and lax was the NSA to allow Snowden to download (acquire) this treasure trove? The NSA relationship with its contractors is totally corrupt and involves bribes kickbacks and revolving door employment

Obama is the traitor not Ed Snowden


58 posted on 08/11/2013 8:23:43 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Chgogal

I wish we could stop every attack, I really do. But nothing is 100. As I stated earlier I retired in ‘02 at Hurlburt Field FL and I can assure you no one I served with would consider an American who hand delivered our nation’s secrets to a Russian president a hero. Hell before tonight I’d have said the same for FReepers.


59 posted on 08/11/2013 8:29:54 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: fabian
How are people of any philosophic stripe “screwed up” for opposing a government who downloads without probable cause and warrant private citizens' communications? I have no problem with the NSA collecting data on foreigners abroad and then getting warrants on each and every communication with that foreigner. I have no problem with communication companies storing the data and when given a proper warrant from the government, the company giving that private citizens's communications to the government.

I will never agree that the US government has the right to confiscate all private communications of US citizen and then store it for as long as it deems necessary. It will be abused just as Obama's IRS is abusing its responsibilities.

60 posted on 08/11/2013 8:32:47 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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