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When I was a kid growing up in the 60s and 70s I use to collect toy guns: Cap guns, dart guns, water pistols etc I think at the most I had close to 50 which would probably get me life in prison today.
1 posted on 09/24/2013 6:59:24 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda
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My four year old grandson said he wanted a gun and a fishing pole. He said the gun was for shooting birds and pointed up at geese flying over. I was both warmed, he is a real boy, and afraid for him. Being a real boy is going to be dangerous.


2 posted on 09/24/2013 7:02:50 AM PDT by cajungirl
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Used to be what you did on your own private property was, well, private. Guess Mr. Orwell was right. Wonder if we can get a sequel made "Minority Report Card" ...

I hope whoever made the idiotic decision to suspend the child ends up fired. Their judgement is highly suspect. I wouldn't trust anyone with that poor of judgement, sense of balance, and prone to knee-jerk reactions in any kind of authority position.

3 posted on 09/24/2013 7:04:15 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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I don’t see how the school has any business getting involved here. It didn’t happen on school property (in school, on the bus, etc.) and I think the argument “well, two of the friends were waiting for the bus” is kinda thin.

I’m not saying the kid shouldn’t be punished by his parents for jerking around. But expelled from school? Unless there is more to this story, yeesh!


4 posted on 09/24/2013 7:05:05 AM PDT by DemforBush (Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia!)
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What is an “air-soft” gun? Is it as powerful as a BB gun? (By “powerful” I mean only that it can hurt someone.)


5 posted on 09/24/2013 7:05:17 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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Cha Ching!


6 posted on 09/24/2013 7:06:24 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

When I was a kid everyone played cops-and-robbers or cowboys-and-Indians or “war”, and we didn’t turn into a bunch of maniacal killers.


7 posted on 09/24/2013 7:07:35 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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That kid’s a piker. When I was in high school my friends and I built guns. My best was a fully functional Civil War cannon made out of a 3/4” pipe that used match heads as a propellant (my homemade black powder formula never worked quite well enough) and shot marbles dangerously long distances. Some of my friends were into pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails. None of us ever got arrested for all of this and mod of us have survived into early old age.


8 posted on 09/24/2013 7:12:00 AM PDT by libstripper
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TV locals news , kid suspended from school for shooting air gun on his own lawn in VA. The plastic gun says 'Zombie Hunter' on it too.

Democrat Anti-Gun Nuts Gone Totally Insane: Kid Suspended for Playing with Toy Gun

Zero tolerance.

11 posted on 09/24/2013 7:13:26 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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More complete story here.

http://www.wavy.com/news/local/va-beach/has-zero-tolerance-gone-too-far


12 posted on 09/24/2013 7:15:49 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Someone made this decision.

That someone has a name.

And an address.

Publish it.

And then look the other way.

Make that someone worry.

Worry a lot.


17 posted on 09/24/2013 7:22:10 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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Recording of the 9-11 call..

http://media2.wavy.com/audio/Carew911call.wav


18 posted on 09/24/2013 7:24:30 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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The three children firing the guns were suspended.

http://www.wavy.com/news/local/va-beach/has-zero-tolerance-gone-too-far


21 posted on 09/24/2013 7:26:12 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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So not the school’s authority extends to outside school hours on private property? I would get a lawyer to explain that no matter how “concerned” they were, they had no legal authority to do anything.


22 posted on 09/24/2013 7:27:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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The City codes referenced in this case are as follows:

City Code 38-3, primarily section (d) “ Notwithstanding any other provisions of this section, it shall be unlawful for any person to discharge any firearm, spring-propelled rifle or pistol, from, on, across or within one hundred fifty (150) yards of any building, dwelling, street, sidewalk, alley, roadway or public land or public place within the city limits.”


23 posted on 09/24/2013 7:28:57 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The inmates are running the asylum.


25 posted on 09/24/2013 7:29:57 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
27 posted on 09/24/2013 7:38:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

http://is.gd/14glYe

(pdf file, right at the top)

The problem is that a school bus stop is legally school territory in Virginia. The principal is notified, who must notify the superintendent, who then may contact the police.

It doesn’t matter if the student was on private property when he fired on students at the bus stop.

Yes, I agree that they are stretching it, but in this case, with several legal contrivances, like the airsoft gun being a “gun”, the letter of the law is on their side.

In a sane place, this would be handled as a school disciplinary manner, but the state of Virginia is weird about guns.


31 posted on 09/24/2013 7:49:40 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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that is an arsenal!


36 posted on 09/24/2013 8:09:15 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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