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Boehner: No Funding Bill Without 1-Year Obamacare Delay
NewsMax ^ | 26 Sep 13 | AP

Posted on 09/26/2013 12:45:56 PM PDT by xzins

Speaker John Boehner said Thursday the GOP-controlled House will not accept a temporary spending bill from the Democratic Senate if it is shorn clean of a tea party plan to "defund Obamacare."

"I don't see that happening," Boehner told reporters.

At the same time, the Ohio Republican said House GOP leaders would unveil legislation to lift the government's borrowing cap, but only if the new health care law is delayed for a year. He defended that measure's relatively modest spending cuts even as some rank-and-file conservatives pressed for more.

"It does not cut spending significantly. It does not fix the problem," Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Ala., said of the debt ceiling package. He said he was undecided about whether to support it. "We need to significantly cut federal government spending, or long-term have a balanced budget constitutional amendment," he said.

Obamacare: Massive New Rules Revealed for 2013

Pressure is building on fractious House Republicans as a partial government shutdown looms at midnight Monday if a bitterly-divided Congress can't send a temporary spending bill to President Barack Obama on time.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid immediately rejected Boehner's proposal. Meanwhile, the Senate trudged ahead toward a Friday vote on stripping the defund Obamacare provision from the House-passed stopgap funding bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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KEYWORDS: boehner; obamacare
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To: Starboard; GeronL
RE :”GOP better get used to operating with no money because I don’t know anyone who will donate to them. They are going to be in a financial bind. No money to run on.”

Maybe they are more interested in GOPe’s donations than yours.

A GOPe like Romney earns like $50B a year so he can afford to give more than your $25.
and he is a ‘job creator’ too.

81 posted on 09/26/2013 1:46:04 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: GeronL
RE :”delaying ObamaCare helps the Democrats IMO”

A delay saves lots of $$$ if nothing else

And it buys time before many get addicted to free health care

Obama is already delaying much of the unpleasant stuff so why not buy some time?.

82 posted on 09/26/2013 1:48:54 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Pietro
"OCare"

I love it but I think we should strip out the care since it has nothing to do with that and call it O'Scare. Just in time for Halloween.

83 posted on 09/26/2013 1:51:40 PM PDT by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: Night Hides Not

Well it seems they got away with it became law. Cruz was right to stand up to Obamacare and defund it.

Obama is now saying 5 more days and it’s done.


84 posted on 09/26/2013 1:53:55 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: xzins
The stupidity of the GOP leadership knows no bounds.
85 posted on 09/26/2013 1:56:04 PM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN-a four letter word spelled with ten. Dealing with politicians IS the war on terror)
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To: sand88

A defund is a temporary measure, too, that must be brought up again and again.

Our fight is to repeal.

Any temporary road block is to our advantage.

Repeal is best.
Defund is 2nd best.
Delay is 3rd best.
Removing most offensive parts of bill is 4th best.

Ultimately, though, not implementing is what we’ve been fighting for. And a delay prevents implementation.


86 posted on 09/26/2013 1:56:12 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

BONER LOSES AT TIC-TAC-TOE WITH REID.”

It’s because Boner has no lead in his pencil.


87 posted on 09/26/2013 1:56:23 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: xzins
I concur.

A delay gives interested parties an opportunity to actually see what this is going to cost without actually having to purchase it.

Amounts to the difference between
I can't believe you did that to me, and
I can't believe you were going to do that to me...

88 posted on 09/26/2013 1:58:59 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: stockpirate

Its all deal making and smoke and mirrors right now, but Obamacare is the GOP mantra for 2014 and they must look good on that issue to pretend they want to turn it back.

The next thing Boehner will cave on is the debt ceiling increase next month and he’s likely to look bad on that again like he did at the beginning of the year.


89 posted on 09/26/2013 1:59:16 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: Starboard

We saw yesterday how many Senators will stand with Cruz on Defund. Cruz saw it too, and then CRUZ VOTED FOR the measure to proceed that had 100 senatorial votes....in other words, every single senator.

Cruz said that the filibuster should have been on Friday’s vote and then a refusal to allow cloture. He’s not spoken to that, though, since he voted to proceed.

If he were to support DELAY, would you then support it?


90 posted on 09/26/2013 2:00:30 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: novemberslady
ABC Radio at the top of the hour said Lee and Cruz objected to a vote tonight.

Bob Corker said the only reason they want it delayed until tomorrow so they can rally people to watch on TV. Then he said, get this,

That was not in the best interests of the American people.

Can you believe that???

91 posted on 09/26/2013 2:03:24 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: GeronL

For the last 3 years we’ve fought against implementation of ObamaCare. A delay prevents implementation for a while longer.

So far a repeal is not possible.

A defund is as possible as the number of senators you saw supporting Cruz yesterday.

A delay might get more support, AND it does prevent implementation.


92 posted on 09/26/2013 2:03:57 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

true, but a delay could help the Democrats in 2014 by not smacking around their voters in the meantime.

:p


93 posted on 09/26/2013 2:05:20 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: xzins

They are feeling heat but the ultimate GOP plan is “repeal and replace” as Boehner, Cantor, Romney and others have stated.

They want Obamacare Light-Romneycare......


94 posted on 09/26/2013 2:06:20 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: GeronL

Normally would agree, but up until now the price tag has been illusive. October first the cost comes into focus. I think that is the game changer.


95 posted on 09/26/2013 2:07:07 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: xzins

No, the trick is it’s just a delay in the individual mandate.
Everything else proceeds along: the signing up and the spending on it.

I’d have accepted it if the Dem Senate put it in the bill since it would be suicide not to, but Harry isn’t allowing that.

Gotta defund, delay too if the people insist.


96 posted on 09/26/2013 2:07:55 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: novemberslady; P-Marlowe; RKBA Democrat

Cruz was trying to kill a day on the calendar in addition to educating the public. He succeeded.

That day means that the cloture vote will be on a Saturday, that the bill will go back to the House on a weekend, and that the Senate can get a new Bill from the House on the final day possible, and that it could call for a delay.

It’s possible that this was strategized as a plan someplace.


97 posted on 09/26/2013 2:08:00 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I saw him kissing dick’s ass saying that he wanted to make it clear that it wasn’t the ‘Republicans’ that wanted to delay the vote, just two of them.


98 posted on 09/26/2013 2:08:27 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: ronnie raygun
At the time of the decision, a FReeper posted that his inside contact at SCOTUS told him Ginsburg threatened to retire if Roberts wouldn't change his vote, allowing the Mombasa Moonbeam another pick.

I guess we have to wait until 2017 to see if there's anything to that.

99 posted on 09/26/2013 2:08:39 PM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: GeronL; P-Marlowe

It would still hit one month before the election next year. I would prefer a 9 month or a 3 year delay.

I can’t lose sight of the fact, though, that what I want is a REPEAL.

A defund is a temporary measure until the next funding cycle, presumably as soon as November. A lengthy delay gives that much more time to fight this.


100 posted on 09/26/2013 2:10:09 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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