Second, even if it was true that spending bills must originate in the House, there have been many spending bills sent from the House to the Senate. All the Senate needs to do is take one of those and amend it to have everything they want.
That said, the point is still that the House needs to concur on any spending bill passed by the Senate. But at this point, the Republicans are so fractured (egged on by the media) that I am almost certain that the garbage bill from the Senate "deal" will pass the House.
The answer is not to call fire and brimstone on the heads of GOPe and RINOs. The answer is not to form 3rd parties that will (at best) win a few seats. The answer is to get more Republicans elected to both houses of Congress. If you have a Republican Majority Leader in the Senate and a Republican Speaker of the House, they control the agenda. I don't know if you noticed, but when the Demoncrats controlled Congress, they accepted a large number of more conservative (less liberal) members, because it gave them enough control to pass Obamacare, gays in the military and other such items. WE need to get the power to control the agenda to someone who has to listen to conservative voices - even if it means having Senator Collins as part of the coalition (do you think Maine or any of the Northeast states are going to elect Ted Cruz-types in your lifetime?). Fight in the primaries for the most conservative person who can win, then vote against the Demoncrats. Third party votes (or staying home) just lead to Demoncrat wins.
Wake up. This is a Constitutional Republic - you need to form coalitions with people who do not agree with you to get your agenda on the table.
Good points. Which will draw some fire here.
This stunt did nothing but hurt the GOP.
Your way of thinking has made government bigger, raised taxes repeatedly and increased our national debt sky high.
One hundred years of Democrat and Republican leaders both moving this nation in the wrong direction towards tyranny at differing rates of speed.
The "conservative" Dems always vote with the Dems.
The "moderate" Republicans ALSO always vote with the Dems.
Obamacare goes through and it is game effin over.
Here is the deal. A significant percentage of us are willing to burn this mother to the ground. ALL of it... It has become that corrupt, that cancerous, that dangerous to our freedom. Our numbers grow every day, as can be observed in a growing number of OUR kind being elected to positions in government. Our goal isnt to elect people who want to use government to “make our lives better”, we elect people who will STOP government from making our lives worse, AND who will actively work to burn down the infrastructure the socialists have built. NOTHING gets done if it doesn’t benefit that goal. While we dont yet have the numbers to guarantee success, we will...
Our goal isnt to lessen the pain, or make things a little better. We want those who mean to enslave us to the collective RUINED! We want it ALL! We wont settle for anything less than freedom from the tyranny of socialists and statists. This IS a revolution. DO NOT MISTAKE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE! I am no longer faithful to this country, because this country is no longer faithful to me. One day we WILL burn down what the collectivists corrupted. Then we can rebuild.
“But what do we mean by the American Revolution? Do we mean the American war? The Revolution was effected before the war commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments of their duties and obligations...
...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people, was the real American Revolution.” - John Adams February 13, 1818
Eighteen House Republicans plus the House Democrat caucus is not a Republican coalition. You are describing a Democrat coalition, as in the Texas legislature.
If the people want the individual mandate delayed badly enough, the votes will materialize. That is the objective of Cruz and the Tea Party caucus.
Politics is about inspiring, leading and shaping public opinion, not counting legislators.
Wow-you’re making sense-who let you in here? At some point you have to realize you don’t want to die on that hill and live to fight another day.