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Opt-Out Obamacare Penalty Can't Be Enforced -- Unless You Get a Tax Refund
Rush Limbaugh ^ | 10-24-2013 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/24/2013 10:48:07 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

October 24, 2013 BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: For those of us who take as long as we can to pay our taxes, October 15th was the extension filing date for 2012, and I dutifully was in there. My accountant, who is almost afraid to be my accountant because he thinks he's gonna get targeted, too, just 'cause his name's on my return, he said, "Look, you may not know this, but you keep talking about these Obamacare fines if you don't buy a policy. Do you know that under the law --" and I had to go look it up. Not that I didn't believe him, but he just never gets political with me. He stays over there. (interruption) No, no. He's not lib. It's a professional relationship.

Anyway, he said to me that according to the law, the only way that the government can collect the fine or penalty for you not buying insurance is if you are owed a tax refund. If you do not owe a tax refund, they cannot go into your bank account or anywhere else and get that money. Now, the sad thing is that most people file their taxes to get a refund 'cause they think they're screwing the government, and they're not. You're giving the government all that money all that year, but, no, look, what it means is that it can't work. The whole point of this is the individual mandate. The guts of this are the mandate that you buy, that young, healthy people get screwed price-wise by being forced to buy insurance. You've got to.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: irsobamacare; obamacarepenalty; optoutobamacare; penalty; refund; rushlive; rushtranscript
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Works for me!
1 posted on 10/24/2013 10:48:07 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I don’t think he knows what he is talking about. YOu owe the IRS and that is that.


2 posted on 10/24/2013 10:49:12 AM PDT by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I always owe.


3 posted on 10/24/2013 10:50:54 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: Chickensoup

YOu owe the IRS and that is that.”

Actually, the IRS OWNS you and me and everyone that is gainfully employed and not living on government handouts and that is that.


4 posted on 10/24/2013 10:53:10 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Chickensoup

The point he’s making is true, that the IRS cannot compel people to pay the 0bamacare fine.

If everyone will adjust their W4 forms at the beginning of the year, it will (1) starve the beast a little... and (2) keep people from having that fine/tax/penalty held out of their refund due in April 2015.


5 posted on 10/24/2013 10:53:54 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Imagine how much money will be held back from the Gov if nobody overpaid
their taxes during the year. The fact is that if you're receiving a refund
you've paid to much tax during the year, and the Gov needs that money to keep
their handouts going. It would break the Government overspending to an extent
that a budget would be forced.

Obama/DemoRATs have not had a budget, EVER! And the Repubs will not enforce one either!


Kill their blank check and stop overpaying during the year.

6 posted on 10/24/2013 10:55:25 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

If you believe that I want to show you one of my nicest bridges.


7 posted on 10/24/2013 10:55:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: boomop1

Me too! Someone called Rush later and said he could break the law and get it from your bank acct. and Rush said yes. If nobody goes after him for it he can. But as the lase stands, they cannot take it from your bank acct. nor take your property.


8 posted on 10/24/2013 10:55:45 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

In our dictatorship with the insane King Obama they will take the fine from anywhere you have money. Bank accounts are at the same communists control empire that government is. The IRS is above the law and they make their own.


9 posted on 10/24/2013 10:56:32 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Chickensoup
I don’t think he knows what he is talking about. YOu owe the IRS and that is that.

It appears to be you doesn't know what he's talking about.

Obamacare Penalties: 3 Things to Know Before 2014

Penalty, shmenalty?

You might also want to know about one other minor detail about the Obamacare penalties: The IRS can't go after taxpayers who don't pay up. That's right -- the Affordable Care Act didn't include any provisions for the tax agency to enforce collection of the penalties.

2014 tax returns, which aren't due until April 2015, will include a spot for taxpayers to provide information about health insurance. If any penalties apply, the IRS will subtract the penalty amount out of any refund owed. If you don't get a refund or the penalty is greater than your refund, the agency will want you to mail a check to them or send funds electronically.

What happens if you decide not to send the money? The IRS could take it out of any future tax refunds. If your taxes are withheld through your employer, the agency could also get the money through that route. However, it can't press criminal charges or assess further financial penalties for not paying. The IRS also can't place a lien on property as it can when seeking payment of overdue taxes.

10 posted on 10/24/2013 10:56:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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woops! lase s/b law


11 posted on 10/24/2013 10:56:51 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If you later in life file for SS could they take it out of that?


12 posted on 10/24/2013 11:01:43 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Nonsense. The IRS can garnish pay.


13 posted on 10/24/2013 11:03:26 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Think about this...the govt. can only tax something you buy. If you do not buy anything and it is not a penalty, they cannot tax nothing.


14 posted on 10/24/2013 11:05:18 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Rush's accountant is correct as long as the IRS follows the letter of the law. but what is likely to happen in reality is this;
You don't pay the fine
Your account is flagged
Audit shows some minor discrepancy and you are cited for the discrepancy (almost every return contains one.)
IRS say payment for discrepancy and ObamaCare fine is due
They collect by any means necessary unless you fight them.
Suffice it to say, if you have ever had to fight with the IRS you know what a nightmare that is.
15 posted on 10/24/2013 11:06:37 AM PDT by Old North State
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Works for me!


Me too. I have not gotten a refund for at least ten years.


16 posted on 10/24/2013 11:09:35 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: sheikdetailfeather

“Think about this...the govt. can only tax something you buy. If you do not buy anything and it is not a penalty, they cannot tax nothing.”

I understand. I still don’t buy it. They’ll find a way to get it, for example by denying you something until you pay, similar to suspending your license till you pay your parking tickets. You’ll have a trip to Italy planned and purchased and all of a sudden, your passport is suspended when you’re at the airport. Something along those lines.


17 posted on 10/24/2013 11:10:02 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Says nothing about that in the law.


18 posted on 10/24/2013 11:11:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: boomop1

I always owe because my wife makes so much less than me that even when she claims no deductions there is very little withheld from her check. But since it is the money basically attached “on top” of what I make, it puts us in the hole every year. However, she’s quitting at the end of the year. Looks like I’ll add “1” to my number of dependents on my W-4 next year.


19 posted on 10/24/2013 11:12:12 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Does Rushbo actually believe this? Does he honestly think the fascists are not coming after your bank accounts and everything else you own if you own fine money? Is he kidding? This is all a scam, a backdoor to communism, that’s the only reason they created Obamacare. They are going to make the rates for commiecare insanely high - if they aren’t already - and as a result Joe Middle class isn’t going to able to afford it and the fines will stack up and of course being that it is classified as a tax they will sock you with penalties and of course those fines will get higher every year and then *poof* the fascists then have an excuse for redistribution of wealth - “You owe $70k in fines which is a tax so say goodbye to the house, car, kids college fund, everything else you own” and Stalin Obama gets to practice financial collectivism, redistribution - You now work for the state slave.


20 posted on 10/24/2013 11:12:39 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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