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Study: Union-backed fast food proposal could cost half a million jobs
Fox News ^ | Dec 5, 2013 | By Bill McMorris

Posted on 12/05/2013 9:00:21 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Hourly wage increases advocated by labor groups could kill more than 450,000 jobs, according to a new report.

Union-backed labor groups, including Fast Food Forward and Fight for 15, are staging nationwide walk-outs and demonstrations at fast food chains across the country calling for starting wages of $15 per hour.

Their success could spell economic disaster for nearly 20 percent of the nation’s 2.5 million fast food workers, according to an analysis from the Employment Policies Institute.

“We find that roughly 460,000 jobs would be lost in the fast food industry as a consequence of a $15 minimum wage,” the EPI report found. “This is a conservative estimate because it only includes employment loss among those who hold a fast food job as their primary employment. Including those who work in the industry as a second job would increase the estimates.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communism; fastfood; foodjustice; jobs; macwages; minwage; unions
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To: Red in Blue PA; svcw

Most are paid more than they are worth from my experience.”

My daddy, whom I considered to be a very wise man, always told me that I was worth what someone would pay me.

We used to eat out three times a week for lunch. When the $1 menu disappeared, we cut it to twice per week. Come January 1, we have decided to reduce it to once a week or once every other week because slowly but surely prices keep creeping up.

The pay per hour is only a small part of the issue. For everyone that quits eating out, that’s one less burger and bun and lots of businesses involved in the food chain are going to start really feeling the pinch.


21 posted on 12/05/2013 9:54:51 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: vette6387

Thanks! The recovery is coming along nicely. Thank God.

And I think doubling labor costs would definitely have a big impact on the bottom line of any labor intensive business. It’d be hard to raise prices, so they’d have to reduce costs by consolidating and laying off workers wherever possible. Would be a huge shakeout to the fast food industry and many others. This would be a huge destructive overreach by our fascist government.


22 posted on 12/05/2013 9:55:21 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

In San Antonio, I have been to two different Jack In The Cracks which had automated ordering kiosks which allowed you to order your food without ever dealing with an employee until they brought out your food.

It is only a matter of time before there will be only two or three people running an entire shift at the local Mickey D’s! And we, the customer, probably will never actually, directly interact with them!


23 posted on 12/05/2013 9:56:00 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am willing to drive up to an hour to purchase fast food at any place that is currently on the strike list. I just don’t know which places are being targeted. can anyone in the FR world provide this information?


24 posted on 12/05/2013 9:59:25 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: carlo3b
Young adults have less opportunities to learn to work, than ever before.. Most of the lost jobs do to the increase will further exasperate the problem.

The number one complaint of the field employees at my company is that the new, young employees have NO WORK ETHIC! They don't understand that we plan our work with the idea that everyone will show up everyday and perform at a decent level of productivity. They do not understand that finishing a single task is not an "accomplishment," it is the opportunity to start another task - we got thousands to do on this job, not just ONE.

These are skills which you learn while working as a teenager and often in fast food. If you are the order taker, you learn that you get the butt chewing if the preparer screws up. As the preparer, you learn that everything breaks down if the guy in charge of supplying your station doesn't perform. You learn these VITAL skills to perform other, better paying jobs, by working in these low skilled, low paying jobs.
25 posted on 12/05/2013 10:02:45 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
current minimum wage still makes the old way a better deal

That'd be my guess.....

the gas chain "Sheetz" down here has automated order-taking. You then take the slip to the counter to pay (a step that could be EASILY eliminated) and one or two people in the back make the food.

It wouldn't be a stretch to eliminate a large number of the people that work behind the counter in a Fast Food Joint. If this "living wage" nonsense comes off, it'll happen in a New York Minute.

26 posted on 12/05/2013 10:25:45 AM PST by wbill
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To: Jim Robinson

Gee, the Yutes are going to be thrilled when their dollar burger now costs 3....


27 posted on 12/05/2013 10:26:39 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Jim Robinson
The following message was published many years ago, utilizing Walter Williams' warning about the negative consequences of minimum wage laws on families and those who most need work experience and earnings. His words were true then, and he has repeated them both on Stossel and in his own column only recently.

Min. Wage

Dr. Williams understands and has been teaching, speaking, and writing about the tragic consequences of the so-called "progressive" policies which Democrats have inflicted upon Americans--all in the name of "helping" them.

Slavery to government is no better than slavery to individual masters. Yet, the "regressives" continue to buy power and influence by promoting policies that destroy opportunity, prosperity, and freedom for our own and future generations.

28 posted on 12/05/2013 10:29:37 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Jim Robinson

If fast food pays $15 an hour, I may have to quit my office job and flip burgers to get an increase in pay!


29 posted on 12/05/2013 10:33:46 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: carlo3b
*We pump our own gas, pick up our own food, and cleanup after ourselves in food establishments.. Hell, we even pick up our own mail at the central mailboxes.*

What makes my wife mad is when we go to a high priced grocery store and they close the human registers at 10pm and you have to use the automated check out.

They should at least give you a discount for working as a cashier for them

30 posted on 12/05/2013 10:36:02 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Jim Robinson

Order takers will be the first to be replaced. Anyone who has patronized a Buc-ees store knows how easy it is to place and pay for a food order, the the order always comes out right.


31 posted on 12/05/2013 10:37:20 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: dirtymac

I am sorry, but you just made me laugh at the thought of someone actually driving an hour to buy…..”fast food”. LOL


32 posted on 12/05/2013 10:53:21 AM PST by Gator113 ( Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and Mike Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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To: ExTxMarine

Up the road here in DFW some of the Applebee’s have put a touchscreen device on the tables. You order electronically, call the waiter by pushing a button, pay when you’re ready, and it prints out a receipt.

The order is usually right and I get out of dodge when I’m ready, not when they’re ready. Love it.


33 posted on 12/05/2013 10:57:00 AM PST by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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To: svcw

Gee....pay double for a spit burger or don’t....not a hard question to answer.


34 posted on 12/05/2013 11:01:22 AM PST by Gaffer
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Unsolicited email just received from moveon.org re: “The struggle for food justice:”

Subject: The most important fight in the struggle for food justice

Dear Jim,
I’m Michael Pollan, author of The Omnivore’s Dilemma, In Defense of Food, and Cooked. For many years now, I’ve been passionately outspoken about the food justice movement, and low-wage workers represent a key front in the fight for fair and just food.

That’s why I hope you’ll join me and millions of MoveOn members across the country in expressing solidarity with the fast-food workers going on strike for fair wages today.

Those of us working in the food movement often speak of our economy’s unhealthy reliance on “cheap food.” But cheap food only seems cheap because the real costs of its production are hidden from us: the exploitation of food and farm workers, the brutalization of animals, and the undermining of the health of the soil, the water, and the atmosphere.

As a society, we’ve trapped ourselves in a kind of reverse Fordism. Instead of paying workers well enough so that they can afford good, honestly-priced products—as Henry Ford endeavored to do so that his workers might afford to buy his cars—we pay them so little that the only food they can afford is junk food destructive of their health and the environment’s.

If we are ever to right this wrong, to produce food sustainably and justly and sell it at an honest price, we will first have to pay people a living wage so that they can afford to buy it. Let’s start with the people who work so hard to feed us.


35 posted on 12/05/2013 11:06:53 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

That would only constitute the first blow to such businesses.

The eventual closing of thousands of franchises would follow-—and then even more would be out of work.

For many, this is the highest point of employment they are skilled to do.


36 posted on 12/05/2013 11:11:24 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Gaffer

Yep. I can’t stand fast food (except Chick-fil-a spicy chicken) but because of the strike, I’ll have to go support businesses/employers


37 posted on 12/05/2013 11:18:07 AM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: svcw

Exactly! People are so ignorant of economics that it doesn’t occur to them that prices, wages, etc. have a basis in reality. The reason a pro athlete is paid millions and a school teacher paid thousands is that there aren’t any school teachers who can hit a 90-mile-an-hour fastball, but most people can teach a first grader to read.

Government can’t just wave a magic wand and fix wages and prices or create wealth or jobs. It’s insane to believe otherwise.


38 posted on 12/05/2013 1:19:02 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Gator113

I realize the irony of fast food an hour away. however, it may not be necessary for me to say this but the point was not to acquire any fast food at any distance but to provide financial and moral support for a merchant faced with unionization thugs.


39 posted on 12/05/2013 3:19:13 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: Jim Robinson

40 posted on 12/05/2013 3:28:44 PM PST by Popman
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