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Manchin warns Obamacare could still collapse
Politico ^ | Dec. 22, 2013 | Ginger Gibson

Posted on 12/22/2013 7:45:01 AM PST by PJ-Comix

Sen. Joe Manchin warns that Obamacare could collapse “under its own weight” if there are continued problems, repeating his push for delaying the individual mandate.

“If it’s so much more expensive than what we anticipated and if the coverage is not as good as what we had, you’ve got a complete meltdown at that time,” the West Virginia Democrat said in an interview that aired Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “This transitional year gives you a chance to adjust the product for the market.”

Manchin is pushing legislation with Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) that would delay the individual mandate for another year.

“It falls under its own weight if the cost becomes more than we can absorb,” Manchin said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 113th; aca; illinois; joemanchin; markkirk; obamacare; westvirginia
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I am 63. My new year resolution is to get healthier from diet changes and improved exercise. The last thing I want is to use or healthcare system.


21 posted on 12/22/2013 8:08:55 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: PJ-Comix

22 posted on 12/22/2013 8:09:31 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: PJ-Comix

SHUT UP JOE, you worthless turncoat.


23 posted on 12/22/2013 8:09:43 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: PJ-Comix
Obamacare is not the Titanic. The Titanic left it's berth and was well under way at sea before it's fateful collision.

No, Obamacare is sinking in the harbor just after it's release from dry dock. And Skipper Obama is insisting that passengers keep boarding the ship while the vessel is taking on water.

24 posted on 12/22/2013 8:13:08 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I think you are the first to get that. It seemed like the obvious name for him to me.


26 posted on 12/22/2013 8:15:01 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: PJ-Comix

27 posted on 12/22/2013 8:15:57 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: originalbuckeye

Manchin plays his constituents the same way Evan Bayh did in Indiana. Acts morre conservative when he talks to his state, then goes to DC and votes with the progressives. So far, that BS works.

But maybe not always. I was glad Krauthammer asked him to join the other side. Puts Manchin on the line.


28 posted on 12/22/2013 8:16:31 AM PST by dforest
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To: Gaffer

Excellent comparison. Let ‘em eat (insert favourite Hawiian food here).


29 posted on 12/22/2013 8:17:12 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: PJ-Comix

It will collapse!!! Idiots!!!!


30 posted on 12/22/2013 8:19:07 AM PST by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
What would happen if insurance companies stood in 100% solidarity and said,

"we're going back to the old way. Sue us all. Maybe we'll reconsider if you get your act together."

31 posted on 12/22/2013 8:19:08 AM PST by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: JudyinCanada

You can bet your ass it ain’t a can of SPAM.


32 posted on 12/22/2013 8:21:23 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: PJ-Comix

Manchin’s vote was the deciding vote in passing ObamaCare. Never forget that Obama needed every Democrat vote, and he got them....so Manchin, Pryor, Landrieu, Begich et al each cast the deciding vote for this monstrous program. They should be held fully accountable for the consequences.


33 posted on 12/22/2013 8:24:53 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: chiller
What would happen if insurance companies stood in 100% solidarity

They should, they would turn their sullied image around over night…but there's a problem: this once honorable industry, which by the way is necessary for any economy to advance, is now run by cronies who don't really understand, let alone have the cojones to support, the free market any more. Greedy consumers, and we all know friends who brag about "sticking it to" an insurance company, are part of the problem too.

The industry is now run by highly educated Ivy League types who wouldn't know the real America or the free market if it bit them on the ass……and they have shown their ignorance here, signing onto this thinking that either A; the lib bureaucrats could design this right and B: Americans would put up with it. It is one of the great industry lessons of our lifetimes….

34 posted on 12/22/2013 8:27:19 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: PJ-Comix

My comment on Politico:

Comrades, do not listen to nay-sayers like Joe Manchin! Obamacare is on track like Soviet locomotive at full speed! As Dear Leader Obama said to AFL-CIO in 2003, single payer is goal, and will take several steps and maybe ten years to become reality. Now it is 2013, and plan is on schedule, as soon as destruction of obsolete so-called “free market” medical insurance corporations is complete. All according to plan, comrades! Soon, single-payer National Socialist healthcare will be reality for all good comrades, like in best years of former Soviet Union! And best of all, with hard work by commissar-navigators in new ACA-NSA-IRS data-hub fusion centers, bad comrades from reactionary “tea party” groups will soon “get minds right,” or no operation or brat kids, or medicine for useless feeders like old granny! Like comrade Zeke Emmanuel says, only good comrades of productive working years need good National Socialist healthcare! For others, take pain pill, like said Dear Leader Obama!


35 posted on 12/22/2013 8:27:32 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PJ-Comix

The only way to “fix” it is to throw trillions of dollars at it and if Democrats were in control of congress that is exactly what they would be doing right now. By hook or crook.

Democrats have lost all credibility and the way to get it back is to spend trillions to patch up the monstrosity and make appear to work.

We don’t have trillions of dollars to spare so it would mean massive taxes on the American people and American businesses. The only thing preventing this is the fact that Republicans control the House... for now.


36 posted on 12/22/2013 8:28:02 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: PJ-Comix
Manchin is pushing legislation with Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) that would delay the individual mandate for another year.

Obama delayed the mandate for everyone who had insurance that was canceled. But he didn't delay it for the people who didn't have insurance previously. How does this make any sense?

37 posted on 12/22/2013 8:30:05 AM PST by randita
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To: PJ-Comix

Obamacare as DESIGNED to collapse..
It will take huge effort to forestall that it does....

Even then it will collapse into single payer.. as designed..
Communist CREEP... Socialist finagle.... Fascist bait and switch...

Any that do not know that are as dumb as they want to be..
It’s ALL part of “the Plan”... i.e. Cloward-Piven...


38 posted on 12/22/2013 8:31:42 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Awgie

Way to go!! Check this out for resources (not my blog ... just a good one I found):

http://selfpaypatient.com

About The Self-Pay Patient

I created The Self-Pay Patient to be a resource for the tens of millions of Americans who are either uninsured, have high-deductible health insurance, or just want to escape from bureaucratic medicine and get their healthcare without either an insurance company or the government being involved in their medical treatment. These Americans are often referred to as ‘self-pay patients,’ and this blog is intended to help them find affordable health care options in a health care system that is not generally friendly to self-pay patients.


39 posted on 12/22/2013 8:37:31 AM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Gaffer; C. Edmund Wright
The unelected FL with 24 tax-paid WH assistants.

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the $100 million African trip to apologize for slavery--
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Mrs O wore her pricey diamond bangles sat a DNC fund-raiser last Sept, attended by "tolerant and compassionate" Dems....raised big bucks to keep Mr O in office so he could work for "the poor." Her diamond Gothic cuff was priced at $15,350 set with 2.17 carats in diamonds and the Quatrefoil bracelet at $11,800 set with 1.73 carats in diamonds. (Excerpt) Read more at houston.culturemap.com

40 posted on 12/22/2013 8:40:23 AM PST by Liz
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