Posted on 01/01/2014 11:40:42 AM PST by Jeff Head
with it's LPD and escorts, including two SSNs During the last week of December, the Chinese Navy, the PLAN, conducted exercises with a large group of vessels in what some are calling the Chinese combined fleet. It included their carrier, the Liaoning, CV-16, which is a modernized and refitted Russaain carrier and sister of the Russian, Kuznetsov. it included one of the Chinese large Landing Platform Docks (LPD) which is similar in size and function to the US Navy San Antonio Class LPDS. it included one of the Chinese Type 052C, Lanzhou class destroyers, which are similar in function to the US Navy Arleigh Burke class AEGIS destroyers. It also included the two Type 051C destroyers, both of which are strong multi-function, anti-air destroyers, and two of their newer Tyep 054A guided missile frigates, which the Chinese have built 20 of in the last 4-5 years. These frigates are very strong multi-mission firgates, with low observation technology, a 32 cell VLS launcher for anti-air missiles, and decnt anti-surface and anti-submarine warfare. The US Navy currently has no frigates with such strong capabilities. Finally, it indluded two of the Chinese attach submarines. The pictures are indistinct, but it apears that at least one of these vessels (perhaps both) are the newerType 094 nuclear attack submarines, which are similar in size and function to the earlier US NAvy Los NAgeles attack submaries, though perhaps not as quiet ats those vessels. The US Navy has since built the three boat Sea Wolf Class, and is now building the thrid generation beyond the Los Angles class, the Virginia class of nuclear attack submarines of which ten have been built to date. This represents ten vessels, and is a very strong strike group in the Western PAcific. Since CHina is intent on building several of these types of strike groups, perhaps as many as five by 2030, it is a developing force that cannot be ignored or underestimated. Here are pictures from the exercises:
The Liaoning aircaft carrier with a Type 052C DDG and two Type 054A FFG escorts > All of the surface combatants in the exercises together in close formation > The Liaoning aircaft carrier followed by the PLAN LPD and four escorts > Several JH-7A Strike aircraft fly over the carrier and a Type 52C DDG escort > The Liaoning aircaft carrier and its group led by two attack submarines One cannot help but notice that the Chinese carrier has not aircraft onboard. This is because the Chinese have not completed the airwing for the carrier yet. Though they have built a strong naval air training facility on th Buhai Sea, and though they have started traing pilots there and on the carrier, to date they have only embarked up to three of their J-15 Strike fighters on the carrier. That aircraft is a modernised version fo the Russian SU-33 Flanker fighter. The Chinese recently started serial production of these aircraft so we can expect over the next -2 years for them to fully develop their airwing around those aircraft, and around Ka-28 ASW helicopters, Z-8 ASW and SAR helicopters, and Ka-31 AEW helilciopters, all of which are a [part of the Chinese inventory.
J-115 Strke fighter preparing to take off of the Liaoning J-115 Strke fighter landing on the Liaoning Despite not having the aircraft onboard yet, the Chinese are accomplishing three very important gaols with the documentation of these exercises to the world.
China is pre-empting the message the Indians will definitely send (and others from other nations) with this one. And it is a message that cannot be ignored. Jeff Head THE RISING SEA DRAGON IN ASIA |
The point is not that they are right now capable of any major sortee with this carrier and its strike force. They do not have an air wing yet. But they are practicing with more and more aircraft. To date, they have had up to three on board at once, trapping and taking off, over and over again with different pilots as you might imagine.
The point is that in the space of ten years they have gone from basically a brown water Navy with antiquated 1970s technology to this. And they are building more like gangbusters. so the point is we must be vigilant. In another 10-15 years they hope to have 4 or 5 carrier groups, with the DDGs, FFGs, and SSNs to escort them,, and the AOR cvessels to support them. They have developed full UNREP and VERTREP capabilities while doing all of this. Five such carrier groups will be a HUGE swing of balance in the WESTPAC.
“Yes, the Chicoms want a place at the table, and if they can’t get it, they will invade Formosa. [Yes, I know].”
They can partner with the Brits... they’re pretty good swimmers.
And of course the baby steps to establiching their ability to own the sea and air over places like Taiwan, Spratley Is. etc etc etc will be made easier by being able to “Hot” rotate such BG’s while we still have to transite with one or two at the most over a hostile Pacific with their SSN’s...
Yes, it is a difficult senario, but not one we have not encountered before...
The bad thing is we’ll have to do it with less...And with personnel who are not as well trained, motivated, prepared for such “high-tempo” transits...
All they have to do is bearly put to sea, and they are in the mix...
It’s its!
Not going to happen. The uniparty can't sell enough fiat debt domestically to keep up with transfer payments. The chinks send us stuff to sell at Wally World in exchange for federal reserve notes which are used to buy our debt.
“All they have to do is bearly put to sea, and they are in the mix...”
Consider that when it comes to a shooting war that the Chinese Naval facilities are going to catch several waves of cruise missiles targeting dry docks, refueling areas and repair shops. Those CVBG’s are going to have nothing to come home to. Probably catch 1 or 2 in port too. 4 or 5 carriers means that you’ll probably have at least 1 in port for overhaul/re-fit.
That works both ways - the Chinese have an awful lot of cruise and conventional theater-ballistic missiles. If a war broke out, the threat to US bases in the western Pacific would enormous.
Love it when people talk IT. I - T ... IT’S ... Breakfast of the Gods!
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