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To: txrefugee
Picture yourself here. You carry a pistol for self protection. Someone in the theater is texting on a phone, you ask them politely to stop and they go off on you. You go and speak to the manager. When you come back the guy won't let it go, he is getting more and more irate, words get more and more heated, then he throws his bag of popcorn at you. What do you really think is going to happen next? Do you think he's suddenly going to come to his senses, apologies and offer to pay your dry cleaning bill? Throwing the popcorn was a clear escalation of force that went past a rational tipping point, the next step was going to be physical, even the aggressors wife was trying to hold him back. The elderly man clearly suspected what was going to happen next. He wasn't afraid of the popcorn, he was afraid of a younger and stronger man getting his hand on him before he could deploy his legal, and rational, means of self defense.

It might not have happened this way but it could have.

52 posted on 01/15/2014 5:58:54 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

Clearly he had no problems intimidating women who texted without his permission. Perhaps he’d be better off murdering them...much less “frightening” for him. /s


58 posted on 01/15/2014 6:06:46 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Durus

“Picture yourself here. You carry a pistol for self protection... he was afraid of a younger and stronger man getting his hand on him before he could deploy his legal, and rational, means of self defense”.

Picture yourself here. You decided to verbally confront a much younger and stronger man at a movie instead of moving your seat. The scenario escalates and someone throws popcorn at you. You decide at this point the stronger, younger person may get the upper hand so you shoot. Your bullet is six inches off the target and you shoot the ten year old in front of the younger, stronger man. (or the older lady, or the teenager or whomever). ***My point here is this was a bad shoot no matter what. He didn’t know for sure if he was going to hit his target or the person in front, or next to the man. He acted with complete disregard to the people in the entire movie house. Thank goodness the gun jammed... or we could be hearing about more coffins and grieving families over texting.


65 posted on 01/15/2014 6:09:21 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Durus

Yeah, and when you shoot somebody for that, you go to PRISON.

Every CCW class pounds home the shoot-no shoot situations, and pounds home the message that if you do a “bad shoot,” you will go to prison.

This is more of an issue of an ex-cop bully who thought he could still order his fellow citizens around, and when it didn’t work out, he pulled a gun in anger and shot the man.

It was during the PREVIEWS for goodness sake! Commercials! Not the movie!


68 posted on 01/15/2014 6:11:10 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Durus

EXACTLY.

I might add that the amount of hatred for cops shown here is disturbing.


76 posted on 01/15/2014 6:13:35 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Durus
It might not have happened this way but it could have.

You are correct and if your aunt had been plumbed different, she would be your uncle.

91 posted on 01/15/2014 6:19:54 AM PST by sport
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To: Durus

“Picture yourself here. You carry a pistol for self protection. Someone in the theater is texting on a phone, you ask them politely to stop and they go off on you. You go and speak to the manager. When you come back the guy won’t let it go, he is getting more and more irate, words get more and more heated, then he throws his bag of popcorn at you. What do you really think is going to happen next? Do you think he’s suddenly going to come to his senses, apologies and offer to pay your dry cleaning bill? Throwing the popcorn was a clear escalation of force that went past a rational tipping point, the next step was going to be physical, even the aggressors wife was trying to hold him back. The elderly man clearly suspected what was going to happen next. He wasn’t afraid of the popcorn, he was afraid of a younger and stronger man getting his hand on him before he could deploy his legal, and rational, means of self defense.”

One of the things to consider before starting a confrontation while armed is how this will play before a jury. Grandpa seems to have a pet peeve about people using their phone in a theater. Rather than change seats he decided to say something. If the guy’s response was rude he could still try to de-escalate the situation, he didnt. He decided to rat the guy out to the manager. The texter is also being a D**K by not de-escalating this. This could have been easily avoided if either one would have been reasonable.


96 posted on 01/15/2014 6:21:05 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Durus

So then he could have changed his seat.

But apparently he has an issue with texting in a show and needed to prove that he was still an authority figure.


114 posted on 01/15/2014 6:29:09 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Durus

If you are carrying a gun sometimes you just need to STFU.

If he wanted to fist fight fine, but if you are armed you need to keep calm and walk away.


350 posted on 01/15/2014 11:18:48 AM PST by Eaker (Sweat dries, blood clots and bones heal so suck it up buttercup.)
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To: Durus
Someone in the theater is texting on a phone, you ask them politely to stop and they go off on you.

You need to better inform yourself about the situation as it occurred.

See: Prosecutors: This wasn't the first blow-up for Florida theater shooter Curtis Reeves

Stop defending this goon.

362 posted on 01/15/2014 11:37:19 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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