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An open letter to the GOP on third parties and Lost causes.
The People's Cube ^ | Jan 2014 | Anonymous

Posted on 01/31/2014 8:20:24 AM PST by Voice of Reason88

By way of introduction – let’s just say I’m one of Millions of formally loyal supporters of the GOP. We are the people who donate small amounts and volunteer to make phone calls and knock on doors and do a myriad of others things we don’t like to do just to support the Republican party. We are the ordinary folks you ignore or openly insult – the people you are taking for granted.

We’re also the folks who are standing by dumbfounded as you’re doing the Democratic socialist’s bidding of creating a whole new underclass of Dem voters granting amnesty to the illegal invaders.

Do you really think there is any point in sticking with you people since you seem to be obsessed with defeat? Do you actually think that we’ll stick by you no matter what? Did people stick with the Titanic as it was sinking below the waves?

You say we will lose if we don’t support the party – well, we’re going to be losing anyway so ‘what difference does it make?’ [To coin a phrase]

I intensely dislike traipsing around strange neighbourhoods and knocking on doors for hours on end – but I did that for the good of the party.

I cannot stand calling people on the phone to go through inane call scripts – but I did that because I thought it was important for the future of the country. I helped prepare mailers and did other grunt work because I knew the country is on the edge of a precipice.

I tried to support you people whenever I can and what did it get my brethren and me? [Aside from the derision from fellow Conservatives that think we’re fools for continuing to support you losers]

Let me fill you in on a couple totally freaking obvious facts that have escaped your well healed notice: ~ A). The Leftist-Socialist National Media is NEVER GOING TO BE YOUR FRIEND – learn this really obvious fact and put it in big block letters over your desks so you can remember it.

Say it yourselves 100 times until you learn it – they are the propaganda arm of the Socialist Democratic national party and they cannot be appeased, and they certainly won’t be your friends. They must be defeated along with the main body of the socialist national left in this country.

Those people need to be defeated, not befriended. They are playing for keeps – we need to do the same. In Alinsky’s rules for tools, he refers to us as the ‘enemy’ – well it’s time we did the same.

B). The Media and the DNC are going to label you Racists, terrorists or whatever unless you cease to be Conservatives and become a variation of their Socialist selves.

Stop trying to answer their mendacity and label it for what is and move on – for once you end up on the defensive, they will keep you there. Take a page from the leftists and push a Conservative agenda instead.

The Socialist National left is like a baseball batting machine that incessantly hurls fast balls at your head. Its an unceasing process that will never stop

The minute you shoot down one their outright Lies, two more will be on your way.

C). Never do what the enemy wants you to do – this is so blindingly so obvious the great strategist Sun Tzu didn’t bother saying this self-evident truth.

So, what do you need to do to get us to stick with you and get us back into your good graces?

Good question [{I’m glad I asked it}

1). STOP SUPPORTING AMNESTY FOR 30 MILLION NEW DEMOCRATIC VOTERS.

[Can I be any more emphatic on that point?]

Mark my words, you can either drop the insane idea of amnesty for the illegal invaders or you can destroy the party - It’s your choice.

Pushing amnesty will either create 30 Million new voters for Democratic largess or it will fractionalize the party so badly that it will no longer be the ‘Loyal opposition’ to the Socialist National left.

The GOP will be deader than a Bull Moose as a result – does that sound like a winning strategy?

Either way will mean one party Socialist Democratic national party rule for now until Armageddon.

2). Stop insanely nominating Rinocrats in the futile hope that the media will be ‘nice’ to you and not put the full weight of their propaganda machine to work shredding said candidate.

How many times do you need to repeat that insanity before you learn the lesson?

3). Stop trying to outbid the socialist with government largess

You can’t outbid people willing to destroy the nation just attain some temporary power.

It should be plain that you need to stand up for Conservative values – that is the only thing that will save the country from it’s inevitable demise at the hands of the socialists.

IF you do not do those simple things to save the party and save the nation, I will bid you a quick goodbye and be on my way – along with millions of others.

You can stuff your endless appeals for my donations, and your admonitions to volunteer will fall on deaf ears.

We may be on our way to defeat with a third party – but we will do it with our head held high and our Conservative principles intact.

There is no earthly reason to stay with a sinking ship – and you people are heading straight on for an iceberg – and sadly, you don’t seem to know it.

We can and we will leave – many already have and the exits are getting pretty jammed up.

I can envision many of my Conservative colleagues yelling back at the paper – Hey, where have you been sister? We abandoned the stupid party years ago.

Let me just say in my defense that in most abusive relationships, each has their personal breaking point – many have already reached and are beyond that point. I dare say that if the current events hold to the trends as they are now, many more will join them – as will I.

- Anonymous


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agitprop; banglist; bordersecurity; demwitthirdparty; fff; gop; illegals; immigration; ntsa
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To: Lions Gate

Your items 1 & 2 alone would solve the problem:

“1) Secure our borders
2) Enforce existing law”

If no additional illegals come into the country, that would stop the flow, which is the real problem.


101 posted on 01/31/2014 10:36:39 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative; FR_addict; Voice of Reason88; wku man; Ray76; Starboard; cripplecreek; RinaseaofDs; ...
If no additional illegals come into the country, that would stop the flow, which is the real problem.

Wikipedia on the US/Mexico border:

The border's total length is 1,954 mi, according to figures given by the International Boundary and Water Commission. It is the most frequently crossed international border in the world, with approximately 350 million legal crossings being made annually.
[…]
There are an estimated half a million illegal entries into the United States each year.

Wikipedia on the Paladin:

Crew:                     6
Effective firing range:  11 mi
Operational range:      216 mi
So to cover the border we'd need 1,954 / 22 ≈ 89 Paladins… but that's an under-count because that would entail butting them directly on the border. We would actually want them back a bit.
c² = b² + a²
11²  = 5.5² + a²
121 = 30.25 + a²
90.75 = a²
9.5 ≈ a
So, we could put them 5.5 mi away from the border, allowing them to cover 19 mi of border; this would mean that we'd need 1,954 / 19 ≈ 103 paladins [103 * 6 = 618 men].
Or, we could put them 9.5 mi away from the border, allowing them to cover 11 mi of border; this would mean that we'd need 1,954 / 11 ≈ 178 paladins [178 * 6 = 1,068 men].
(Of course we'd need logistics to support them: meals, munitions, mail, etc.)

See, securing the border is not as hard as they make it out to be.

102 posted on 02/01/2014 12:07:07 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Severely punishing employers who knowingly hire illegals, punishing landlords that rent to illegals, banning the sale of real estate to illegals and barring illegals from collecting food stamps, welfare and any number of other social services would go a long, long way towards repelling the illegal invaders. Many would self deport.

Funny... A US citizen caught illegally in Mexico will find themselves in prison and if lucky after some payola deported. A US citizen is entitled to nothing in Mexico - not even the presumption of innocence.

103 posted on 02/01/2014 12:54:05 AM PST by DB
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

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104 posted on 02/01/2014 3:00:58 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Voice of Reason88

She?


108 posted on 02/01/2014 6:40:15 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Voice of Reason88

Ah... next to last paragraph. Sorry.


109 posted on 02/01/2014 6:43:58 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Voice of Reason88

1). STOP SUPPORTING AMNESTY FOR 30 MILLION NEW DEMOCRATIC VOTERS.

Amen!


110 posted on 02/01/2014 6:44:20 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: OneWingedShark

You got it. Good job.


111 posted on 02/01/2014 10:46:07 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: OneWingedShark

The problems securing the border have nothing to do with logistics.


112 posted on 02/01/2014 11:13:42 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: RKBA Democrat

They will have to answer for their actions someday.


113 posted on 02/01/2014 11:52:00 AM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: Innovative

Trust me, I attack them daily, but this was the last straw in holding my fire for the stupid party.


114 posted on 02/01/2014 11:53:26 AM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: OneWingedShark

Securing the border would have been a great use of the trillions wasn’t on the so-called stimulus.


115 posted on 02/01/2014 11:58:27 AM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Pass the word along.

My guess is that she wouldn’t mind others trying to use that to get their attention.

Or even write their own versions incorporating some the same ideas or words.


116 posted on 02/01/2014 12:01:13 PM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: Personal Responsibility
The problems securing the border have nothing to do with logistics.

Aye — that was my point.

117 posted on 02/01/2014 12:18:31 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: sarge83

I’m as disillusioned and unhappy as every conservative but here are some facts often overlooked when discussing third parties:

1. Local, county and state party apparatus is controlled by statist. They dictate the rules all the way up to the national convention level. If by chance a grassroots organization happens to get rules changes implemented courts and or party honchos knock it down.

2. Both parties have authored and passed bills to deter third party growth. Have you ever wondered why no real third party has taken root? Because the Oligarchy has made it all but impossible by throwing out legal barriers to discourage and sap resources.

3. To fight these obstacles you need to have serious backing and control of information delivery. Most third party movements have neither and are unwilling to fight a gorilla offensive.

4. The progressives have fought a one hundred year long battle to win the hearts an minds of the elites and leech class all the while memorizing what is right and Godly. They have no intention of giving up peacefully and will weather small set backs to achieve their ends.

5. If you want to win you must roll up your sleeves, educate the fence sitters, and wipe out the rest. Either by crushing their ideas (unlikely), wait for the second coming, or go biblical and ground their bones into the earth so they don’t threaten mankind again. This is awful business and it cost the same price we paid two hundred and fifty some years ago.


118 posted on 02/01/2014 3:25:42 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: lodi90

We need to run constitutionalists in the Republican primaries. No Cornballs. No Grahams. No McCs. If they lose, we need to have back-up third party constitutionalists in the general election, such as the Constitution Party. If the constitutionalist wins the primary, the third candidate in the general election should withdraw. If the liberal wins the primary, we vote for the constitutionalist in the general election no matter what. If a third constitutional candidate won’t withdraw, we shun him and stick with the Republican nominee if he is a constitutionalist.


119 posted on 02/01/2014 8:55:01 PM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: OneWingedShark

Minefields work too. So do seismic monitoring devices, infrared, and radio emissions detection.

1000 men and 108 paladins. Excellent. We have 40,000 in the TSA, right?


120 posted on 02/02/2014 7:54:45 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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