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EPA's Wood-Burning Stove Ban Has Chilling Consequences For Many Rural People
Forbes ^ | 1-29-14 | Larry Bell,

Posted on 02/03/2014 4:33:29 PM PST by dynachrome

The impacts of EPA’s ruling will affect many families. According to the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2011 survey statistics, 2.4 million American housing units (12 percent of all homes) burned wood as their primary heating fuel, compared with 7 percent that depended upon fuel oil.

Local governments in some states have gone even further than EPA, not only banning the sale of noncompliant stoves, but even their use as fireplaces. As a result, owners face fines for infractions. Puget Sound, Washington is one such location. Montréal, Canada proposes to eliminate all fireplaces within its city limits.

Only weeks after EPA enacted its new stove rules, attorneys general of seven states sued the agency to crack down on wood-burning water heaters as well. The lawsuit was filed by Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont, all predominately Democrat states. Claiming that EPA’s new regulations didn’t go far enough to decrease particle pollution levels, the plaintiffs cited agency estimates that outdoor wood boilers will produce more than 20 percent of wood-burning emissions by 2017. A related suit was filed by the environmental group Earth Justice.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: agenda21; epa; greentyranny; nannystate; particulates; sueandsettle; thuggery; woodstoves
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

“Just like the tanning booth tax that Obama initiated.
What category of people go to tanning booths?
Answer-the people the Administration want to nail. “

I didn’t know Obama was going after Boehner and his tan. I thought Boehner was doing a good job for dear leader.


141 posted on 02/03/2014 7:54:26 PM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Kartographer

Neighbor, did you see this?


142 posted on 02/03/2014 7:56:00 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: palmer
I don't think going after existing stoves or fireplaces is going to bring in much revenue.

Really? How about when they decide that there really is no difference between a newly-manufactured stove and a previously-manufactured one, and then levy retroactive taxes on them for their alleged dangers? THEN they decide to guesstimate how much wood each stove is capable of burning and levy another tax on the owners based upon that? How much wood, exactly, is your wood stove or fireplace capable of burning?

My experience is that tax-estimators (Infernal Rectalvue Sphincterplumbers) ALWAYS estimate on the attitude of Whatever-Gets-The-Most-Taxes-In, and you will surely be SOL when that happens.

143 posted on 02/03/2014 8:00:37 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!

People will just make their own. Might be a good side business.


144 posted on 02/03/2014 8:00:41 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...
The lawsuit was filed by Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont, all predominately Democrat states. Claiming that EPA’s new regulations didn’t go far enough to decrease particle pollution levels, the plaintiffs cited agency estimates that outdoor wood boilers will produce more than 20 percent of wood-burning emissions by 2017. A related suit was filed by the environmental group Earth Justice.

Don't most of these states have . . . oh, what's that term . . . WINTER???

Combined General and Maryland "Freak State" PING!

145 posted on 02/03/2014 8:07:56 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: palmer
Existing wood stoves are not covered.

Oh, PAAALLLLLMERRRRR!

Do you really think these enviro-maggots are going to stop at new stoves?

146 posted on 02/03/2014 8:09:31 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: dynachrome

We got our heat from wood stoves for the first 12 years of my life. And they were efficient. Now with fireplaces, most of the heat goes up the chimney in smoke.

Builders are starting to offer fireplaces only as upgrades. I hate them. They have to be cleaned.


147 posted on 02/03/2014 8:10:18 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: palmer

Those cheap wood stoves that lots of poor folks in the south use, don’t last long. Usually only one winter.


148 posted on 02/03/2014 8:14:05 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: palmer

“And they first came for the Jews then they came for the________”

Ehco from the past.


149 posted on 02/03/2014 8:14:11 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: B4Ranch
Unfortunately it won't be cops.

It will be these goons.


150 posted on 02/03/2014 8:16:57 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

The newer woodstoves are really nice and extremely efficient. I don’t want one of them because the EPA told me so... I want one so I don’t have to load it as often and it will retain heat better than the older ones. In time, technology and consumer choice will reduce particulate matter far more than the EPA.

I love wood heat!


151 posted on 02/03/2014 8:18:21 PM PST by volunbeer
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To: defconw

Yep, that’s another one. The damn thing emits water vapor, but nooo..that has to be banned as well. The last straw for me is when Bloomberg demanded lists from all landlords of all tenants that smoke in their apartment. That was it for me, matter of fact I think it was the same day I read that I told my landlord I wasn’t renewing my lease. Liberals want to live under fascism, be my guest buy I want no part of it. And then when Bloomberg leaves what do they replace him with? A hardcore blatant Marxist!! And they wonder why Phillip Seymour Hoffman was doing 50 bags of heroin LOL!


152 posted on 02/03/2014 8:18:49 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Utilizer

How much wood would an EPA-compliant woodstove burn,
if an EPA-compliant woodstove actually could burn wood.


153 posted on 02/03/2014 8:20:06 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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Later.


154 posted on 02/03/2014 8:23:06 PM PST by lysie
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
And they wonder why Phillip Seymour Hoffman was doing 50 bags of heroin LOL!

Unfortunately, government will get the last laugh there, too, with their death taxes.

155 posted on 02/03/2014 8:30:07 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

Almost forgot . . .

Environ-MENTAL Nanny State PING!


156 posted on 02/03/2014 8:31:51 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: palmer

What’s the docket number for the regulation, palmer? I’d sure like to give them some hell.


157 posted on 02/03/2014 8:33:45 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Mechanicos
"http://www.richsoil.com/rocket-stove-mass-heater.jsp

They claim a stealthy long burning very low pollution output rocket stove mass heater.
"

Thanks, Mechanicos! I'll look over all of the details on the Net. Too bad for the bipartisan sturgeons of debt, who invest in the local electric and gas rackets. After the end of the default process, technically inclined people will prevail.

And here's one for you, if you're interested.

$2K Solar Space + Water Heating -- One Simple DIY System
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/SpaceHeating/DHWplusSpace/Main.htm


158 posted on 02/03/2014 8:33:45 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: palmer

Hey, I’ve only used my woodstove twice this winter, once during that really cold spell in January, and once during an ice storm, in case the power went out. If there is an inversion, and the power goes out, and it’s cold, you will just have to deal with it.


159 posted on 02/03/2014 8:36:35 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: bigheadfred
"they bring this crap to idaho and it is on"

Amen, Fred! Anyone wanting to enforce that stupid reg here would be well advised to just let it go.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

160 posted on 02/03/2014 8:36:55 PM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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