Posted on 02/09/2014 8:05:52 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
>> “.if you were shown in Scripture where Elohim/Almighty God is described in words that imply tri-unity (meaning three persons but one God) would it be accepted?” <<
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Scripture never has to ‘imply’ anything. When scripture has a message, it says it in clear language. What you infer in a passage of scripture has to be tested against what it really says.
All true doctrine is broadly supported throughout the whole of scripture, not vaguely discernible in one verse.
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Well to go beyond a game you have to give some rationale for the quote you referenced, ie, there is none righteous. What does that mean in relation the ongoing debate of the existence of hell?
Hey, we agree on something!;)
No, I hate what the Catholics teach as I hate the error that Rood teaches. I genuinely feel sorry for those who follow either.
>> “It’s been posted over and over again clearly seen by those who have by God been given eyes to see and ears to hear.” <<
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In scraps of verses ripped out of context to make scripture lie by omission? - Try again!
Your methods are old and well known, starting in Genesis 3.
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That refers to godless and wicked people, what about good people?
The existence of Hell is challenged only by those not accepting the vast volume of scripture showing the clear way of avoiding it.
Hell as an eternal punishment is solidly supported in scripture.
I think it’s the biggest lie of Christianity - that just by believing in Jesus we can attain heaven without paying our debts to life. It’s a liberal theology, like if one believes in the Messiah Obama, one can get a free pass in life without effort.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious. When someone has hatred for someone or something in them, it's a sign that Satan is in control. Yeshua taught love, even of your enemies. As a suggestion, maybe should read more scripture about what Yeshua taught, and not listen so much to someone preaching a false version of churchianity.
Remember the truth will set free; also free from hate.
I truly wish you could see the spirit behind your words Editor. It’s getting really sad to watch.
What’s sad to watch is your demolition of scripture and solid doctrine in support of your escapist theology.
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You say that as if what you post (when you do post scripture) that Its not “one verse” or at most a short passage as the rest of us do. It’s clear to all of us that the entirety of scripture can’t be posted in each post. To now use that tactic is disingenuous. .
Hmmmm, I don't think he's even working on it anymore. I believe we're just wasting time waiting on him. With that said, I'm off to take care of other things.
Y'all have a blessed day!
Later...
Then how do you explain Jesus' interaction with the thief on the cross?
How did you determine you are a Christian?
Christianity is not about what 'you think' but what The Word says. What part of God's plan of The Cross escapes you - the crux of Christianity?
He is more merciful, and he has other ways to punish us.
More merciful than what/who? Where did you get the idea God wants to punish us? What more do you want Jesus to do for you? The ball is in your court to decide and by your post there is more thinking than knowledge and that is your choice.
God doesn’t send people to hell, they choose it .
Only those who refuse accountability play the dumb act of willfully not believing there is a hell.
I have accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
But didn’t ‘mean’ what it said?
It means what it says. If you don’t know what it says, you don’t know what it means.
That doesn’t necessarily mean English, by the way. I’m not in anyway fluent in Greek or Hebrew, but those are the original languages of the texts.
By the way, I’m not following the rest of the thread. Once it gets over 100 posts, I don’t have time to read everything and respond to it, even though I might like to.
I’ll repost the links I posted to begin with to show you what the original objector (DmanA? I don’t know) was probably referring to.
Video - Reverend N.T. Wright on the existence of Hell (3 minutes, 15 seconds; note what he says about a conversation with the Eastern Orthodox Church clergy):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vggzqXzEvZ0
Wikipedia entry on Annihilationism (references some relevant Bible verses):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annihilationism
I have some questions for you if you wish to address me in the debate. The questions are some I had to deal with myself, but I don’t know if they’ve already come up in the thread and as I already said I’m not going to read through a massive thread to see what everybody thinks or says on the matter.
Yep I heard something like that... but I don’t think it’s his greatest/most effective. He uses whatever he can to get anyone away from Truth/Jesus. Like man made teachings are where he controls the minds of whoever gives themselves over to it - he has many flavors of it. Deception is his tool - it worked in the Garden of Eden and he continues to use it to get as many to submit to him (he has many ‘religious’ helpers) to bring with him to hell. He knows his final destiny, the deceived are unaware of theirs in spite of The Word because of their wrong choice.
Anyone who accepts JESUS BELIEVES HIM/The Word - you do not.
Jesus did not die for a myth...so you accepted someone/something else and not Jesus.
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