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Malaysia Airlines MH370: Tony Abbott says possible debris found in Indian Ocean [live thread]
ABC.net.au ^ | March 19, 2014

Posted on 03/19/2014 8:22:10 PM PDT by rdl6989

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has announced objects possibly related to the search for the missing Malaysian Airlines plane have been found in the southern Indian Ocean.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australiasearch; iran; malaysia; mh370; planecrash; waronterror
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To: hoosiermama

before or after ditching? If it is in the water it is no longer air tight.


181 posted on 03/19/2014 11:17:11 PM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: hoosiermama

If Impacted it won’t be.

Think US Air 1549 in the Hudson.

Capt. Sully made a “soft landing” and still had H2O in the tail section while He was clearing/searching for Pax.


182 posted on 03/19/2014 11:17:54 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea

Thx


183 posted on 03/19/2014 11:18:32 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea

:-)


184 posted on 03/19/2014 11:19:50 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Milton Miteybad

I understand the pilots are trained to ditch a plane in that area and if there was a fire or the pilot could not control whatever happenig to the plane.... he would set it that way.

There was two piolets talking about this and both confirmed if they had to ditch a plane in an emergency situation it would be the area they’re searching now....with the understanding the plane could have been on auto-piolet for some time....until either it ran out of gas or fire melted the controls.


185 posted on 03/19/2014 11:22:13 PM PDT by caww
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To: BeadCounter

My guess would be he’s pretty sure but doesn’t want to say so until they are on location and know without a doubt. I would guess their satellite imagery is pretty darn good.


186 posted on 03/19/2014 11:22:33 PM PDT by DB
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To: hoosiermama

apologies...it’s late in CA, I’m following twitter feeds, watching FNC, researching a new receiver and starting into my 2nd glass of wine... I get sarcastic when its past my bedtime ;)


187 posted on 03/19/2014 11:23:46 PM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: mabarker1

I don’t know about that.

I know that AF447’s composite vstab floated because of trapped air.


188 posted on 03/19/2014 11:24:40 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: caww

When it was flying over the Maldives the engines were loud. Partly because it was so low. How far are those islands from the search area?


189 posted on 03/19/2014 11:25:53 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

Maldives is south West of India. Location of debris is South of India near Perth, Australia


190 posted on 03/19/2014 11:27:41 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: mabarker1

Airliners.net members following the news in Malaysia.


191 posted on 03/19/2014 11:28:22 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: mabarker1

I just remembered that CFRP is much denser than water.


192 posted on 03/19/2014 11:29:12 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea

Can’t sleep. It’s 2;30 here. Gonna be a long day tomorrow
But want positive confirmation before turning in. Chocolate milk and banana bread sound good


193 posted on 03/19/2014 11:29:55 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: caww

There’s virtually no chance that such a fire would leave the auto pilot in working order.

The auto pilot and auto throttles will shut off if anything goes wrong and they lose any of the data and sensors they need to operate.


194 posted on 03/19/2014 11:31:36 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

rudder of a330 tail is constructed of composite honeycomb panels... the pics of the tail that I remember seeing had the rudder intact.... what is sealed honeycomb if not ‘trapped air’ ?


195 posted on 03/19/2014 11:33:18 PM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: ltc8k6

O.K. Thank You

Re #191 & 192


196 posted on 03/19/2014 11:34:05 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: ltc8k6

I am unable to give sources or any other information, however I am looking at a hard copy of the satellite imagery which clearly shows the two pieces of debris.
The larger one at 24 metres is definitely a part of an aircraft wing, if it is the 777 we are looking for it would be from the engine pylon to the tip. The other part is harder to tell what it is.
The credible information is that it was found at the extreme fuel range of the aircraft off the West coast of Australia near Perth. The theory of a Helios type tragedy is now most likely but is still speculation.

Airliners.net Australian poster ERJ135.


197 posted on 03/19/2014 11:35:07 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

http://www.corecomposites.com/composites/reinforcements/

Data on CFHC

SG is 1.8 so just under 2x H2O SG

So it would require additional trapped air to float.


198 posted on 03/19/2014 11:41:29 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: ltc8k6; LucyT; maggief; WildHighlander57; Jim Robinson; onyx; crosslink; null and void; Nachum; ...

Thank you
Gonna pass info to some with lists to share in AM


199 posted on 03/19/2014 11:45:18 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Chgogal
Indian Ocean Currents

http://www.oceanweather.com/data/

200 posted on 03/19/2014 11:48:41 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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