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Women Fail to Achieve Male Marines' Lowest Standard
A Colonel of Truth ^ | January 14, 2014 | Jude Eden

Posted on 03/22/2014 10:59:59 AM PDT by QT3.14

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To: exDemMom

It wasn’t when I was in during the 1970s-1980s until I retired in 1992. It was not the same.


41 posted on 03/22/2014 3:57:03 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: Tailback
I started out as 11C, Indirect fire crewman, or in layman's terms, 4.2 and 81mm mortars. When I got to Nam, they handed me an M16 and when I got in the bush, I humped the platoon leader's radio. An extra mass of weight on my back. After I got wounded, I could not hump anymore, so they reclassed me into 71D, Legal Clerk, and later Senior Legal NCO after I made E7.

That is why I was range NCOIC, I hit 40 for 40 and my company commander who was not combat arms, eyed that score and for my last 3 years at Benning, I ran our company ranges. We had MOS's from a bunch of branches. Some combat arms, others admin, etc.

I had a female lawyer who could not hit a barn with a shotgun. We had her on the range all day and she could not qualify. My commander looked at me and said, "Sarge, I don't care what you do, get her qualified. She has failed every range she has ever been on." So, I put her in the fox hole and I got my M16 and went down a couple more and got in myself. When she fired, I fired as quickly after her as she fired. I hit all the close ones enough to get her to 24 I think it was to qualify and quit. She did not hit any others herself. She was so happy. I did not have the heart to say anything. My commander asked me how she qualified. I said, No questions sir, you said to get her qualified and she has. End of subject. He smiled and walked off!!!!! My experience was any female from big cities couldn't shoot a weapon at all. Up close with a pistol they might be okay.

My wife had never shot a day in her life when we got married. I taught her to shoot an AR15. I kept her at 25, 50, 75 and 100 yards. She shoot very good. Better than those did. We shoot all the time. She has her own Beretta Topcat and keeps it in her purse.

42 posted on 03/22/2014 4:06:37 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: RetiredArmy
Yep. You've lived it. Most of those who haven't are the ones pushing the hardest and trying to turn biology and human nature on it's head.

We as a society have fallen in love with unicorns and fairy dust instead of reality for so long we can't tell the difference any more.

Actually, it is even worse than that. We now prefer and heartily evangelize the delusion over the reality. That is Lunatic Town, no?

Isn't there a passage in the Bible about that?

43 posted on 03/22/2014 4:49:23 PM PDT by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: RetiredArmy

Awesome! My best friend that I’ve known since I was 4 years old was an 11-C He got to fly around in helicopters over Panama taking fire on Christmas day during operation “Just (be)CAUSE”.

When I was on my state shooting team, the worst offenders qualification/wise were people that were right handed/left eye dominant. Most of them should have been caught in basic training, but not all DI’s know what the signs are.


44 posted on 03/22/2014 5:04:38 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: jsanders2001

Courtesy of Rush. Always liked the name of that operation and it’s counterpart, the Chopadicoffame.


45 posted on 03/22/2014 5:04:52 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: QT3.14
There has been a double standard in the physical fitness tests for decades. When I was in the service, you had to do a 1-1/2 or 2 mile run (in PT gear) within so many minutes. The lime to complete was adjusted by age of the participant. You also had to do a certain number of sit ups and push ups. There was also a body mass index that had to be passed to get a favorable score.

The bottom line was that if a healthy 20 year old woman could do the minimum (or just passing) for a marginally fit, 45 year old male, she was rated as outstanding. The PFT scores were used as a bludgeon to disqualify males from promotion or retention while early promote and retain females when reductions in forces occurred.

46 posted on 03/23/2014 2:52:33 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: QT3.14
While I greatly admire and respect the fairer sex --- vive la différence --- I personally wouldn't want to share a fox hole with a woman in a combat situation.
A wounded warrior needs a buddy physically strong enough to carry him to safety where he can be administered to by a CORPSEman.
I see this article as evidence that the leftist social experiment of women in combat positions is having the primary desired effect of lowering US military standards.
47 posted on 03/23/2014 3:07:19 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Gritty
The passage in the Scriptures regarding your unicorns or any other animal being worshipped is as follows, from the Book of Romans, Chapter 1 (New American Standard Version):

21For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22Professing to be wise, they became fools,

23and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

24Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.

25For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

48 posted on 03/23/2014 12:41:40 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: RetiredArmy

Yep. I think that’s it!


49 posted on 03/23/2014 3:17:37 PM PDT by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: jameslalor

Totally agree.


50 posted on 03/23/2014 3:57:40 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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