Posted on 03/22/2014 10:59:59 AM PDT by QT3.14
I don't think women belong in combat. There are plenty of ways they can assist our military but combat is not one of them.
give the girls, a shot of 250ml of testosterone once a week, that should turn them into men....
The situps standard is the same for men and women. The run and the pushup standards are less stringent for women.
Another example of the triumph of egalitarian attitudes and beliefs. If unchecked egalitarianism will kill our Republic. The cure of this current illness will have to be almost as bad as the disease.
Its easy to think that, if you’ve never see them compete. I knew a girl with a blackbelt in Kyokoshin Karate, and heavily-muscled thighs that made many men look birdlegged. She walked the typical walk for these types of women. She spent years training in grappling, and yet fighting her was always like fighting a child, and it was never going to get any better.
But see her off the mat, and she looked impressive. Its just that real physical prowess is tough to acquire with a female body. Not enough testosterone, not enough neurological coordination or power, not enough mass (more important than you would believe), not enough enjoyment of the rough and tumble, during the rough and tumble, and their joints seem to work weird, hyper-extending at the wrong times, and always being too loose. They just aren’t designed for that stuff.
This silly meme survives today, and even grows, because we have gone so long without real danger. If resources snap, and suddenly every alley has a cowardly predator-man looking for an easy score by attacking a woman, you will see this crap evaporate pretty quick. GI Jane is fun to think about for the boobs who like it, when reality is far enough off you don’t have to think about what would really happen, or worse yet, recall the helplessnes of that near-death-experience last week at the hand of some skinny tweaker.
Mark my words, if we ever send chicks into combat, as anything more than token support, a lot of good men are going to die who never should have begun to be in danger. This will get good men killed, if we allow these idiots their way.
“I know some pretty tough women out there that could compete with any man physically.”
No, you don’t. You know rare women that can compete with an average man.
Take a look at some of the world weight lifting records - high-school boys on their school weight lifting teams have been known to routinely crack the women’s WORLD records.
Example:
Women’s world record bench press - 480 pounds.
Men’s world record bench press - 1,102 pounds (beat out the last record holder at 1,075).
Compare with high-school weight lifters. Headlines: “High School Senior Can Bench Press 700 Pounds Like Its No Big Deal!” and “High School Senior Braden Smith Benches 515 Pounds for 3 Reps”
Men and women are different, and are not interchangeable. It is a logical fallacy to assume a woman can do anything a man can, and it’s also a fallacy to assume a man can do anything a woman can - the tails of the bell curves just do not meet.
I seem to remember, some years ago, someone with a military background saying that the “most fit” woman was still not as strong as the “least fit” man. I also seem to remember learning at some point in my life that men, just naturally, have more muscle mass then women. Women have more fat. We were made for different purposes. The reason you can’t get that little bit of fat completely off your tummy area, ladies, is because you have a little extra fat there -— to keep the baby warm. As I said, we were designed for different purposes.
My lib uncle told me that all the squad leaders should simply not send the women in when they think it’s a situation the woman are not fit for.
Because, as we all know, wars and combat are run on strict rules like football games. With timeouts, fixed schedules for fighting. Substitution rules that can be used in the middle of a firefight. And so on. How do you reason with mentally ill people??
There is a (small) silver lining to this whole pile of crap. When the Feds decide to impose a form of martial law on this country, a dumbed down and physically unfit army is going to be in a world of hurt when the people fight back. Imagine the consternation when they try to nail down LA and snipers take out as many female grunts as they can? When the “partisans” start targeting the women soldiers, these PC commanders are going to crap their pants. Because in that scenario, it will be war. An armed female grunt is just as viable target as a male. Chivalry doesn’t apply when they are shooting at *you*.
The dumb ass civilians overseeing the military are making the same mistakes over and over as in the past. They have a religious faith in the infallibility and superiority of technology. Unless they think they can bomb all the urban areas in the US into rubble, they are going to find that their faith is misplaced. And taking a city is a lot different than holding it.
“I know some pretty tough women out there that could compete with any man physically.”
No you don’t, not even the ones taking male hormones. They’re are even muscular differences between men and women.
Agree with everything you said.
Expanding on a point: “...not enough mass (more important than you would believe)...”
Weight divisions exist in sports for very good reasons. Anyone who has ever stepped into the ring or onto the mat with someone 30 pounds heavier can tell you what is going to happen.
It’s simply not competitive to have more than a 10 to 20 pound spread between competitors in most weight classes. Hell, competitive athletes try whenever possible to squeak by just under the maximum weight cutoff for their class - it’s far easier to fight a division below you than a division above you.
There’s equality in face of the law, and then there’s equality in all things under the sun. The former is something we should pursue, the latter is a destructive fantasy that only fools and liars espouse.
“There is a (small) silver lining to this whole pile of crap. When the Feds decide to impose a form of martial law on this country, a dumbed down and physically unfit army is going to be in a world of hurt when the people fight back.”
Well, one of the reasons the left hates the military is that in many nations during the 20th century the military stepped up and stopped socialist revolutions before they could get off the ground. In a nation with a capable, effective military staffed with honorable, moral, patriotic men, socialist revolution becomes a near impossibility.
Leftists realize that if they ever want real power, they’re going to have to purge the military first and gut it of any real strength. When you have leftist leaders talking about the need to eliminate wide-swaths of the military while simultaneously reforming what is left to be politically amenable, AND talking about the need to create a civil defense force of “volunteers” that is “just as capable as the military”, then you should read that as Marxists getting rid of potential Francos and Pinochets and prepping their own little army of brownshirts.
I think the issue is that the average woman off the street probably can’t do it.
There are women who could flat out do it, but...when you are talking of large numbers, averages come into play.
It is one of the reasons the average guy can open a stuck jar lid, and the average woman cannot...:)
I agree. I may be wrong, but I would think that the USA is a little unique in geography and demographics. We may have the most well armed citizenry the socialists have encountered. I also believe that the thugs, sadists and bullies that would comprise the “civilian defense force” will not fare well when they encounter serious resistance from well armed and determined free men. They do best against an unarmed and defeated populace.
While I do believe that a large majority of Americans will do nothing (as they are now not doing), and that most will simply try to “stay under the radar”, I also have faith that a determined patriotic minority will be considerably more formidable that these socialist thugs are prepared for.
I agree completely.
Problem is, there are females out there who take a statement of fact that women are, on average, not nearly as strong as men, and assume you are making a blanket statement of female inferiority.
Sure, if a woman is dedicated and resolute, she can overcome the limitations on muscle mass that testosterone and biology place on them through no fault of their own, but it is nowhere near any kind of average fitness level of a male who engages in moderate to high levels of fitness training.
It is just biology, and reality. But they take it as some kind of feminist insult. many women are aware of this difference and understand it, but truth is like kryptonite to Feminazis.
Ask a Libertarian. :)
Wow, she is FIT! My son is a huge fan of CF.
You mean the good old fashioned “Addadictome” operation?
> You mean the good old fashioned “Addadictome” operation?
Yep. Why don’t we just do what thousands of years of experience has tught us what works best. Taken as a group, women and men both have advantages in different areas over each. Doesn’t mean one or the other is inferior or superior in divisive liberalspeak, just different
Women don’t belong in combat units, period. Lack of upper-body strength is but one reason.
> You mean the good old fashioned “Addadictome” operation?
lol
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