Posted on 04/11/2014 11:23:53 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.
A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8 News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.
Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone” and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported. The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.
On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.
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Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.
“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns. We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”
Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to join in the Bundy family defense.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
The militias: lots of wannabes but also a lot of retired military. Those boys have been in the sh!t. I’ve seen some of these boys (or rather peoe like them) practice at a gun range in Texas. Good out to hundreds of yards. Easily.
Versus wannabe BLM “SWAT” thugcops?
Sorry, I’d bet on the militias. It would take the real military to take on some of these boys.
If his cattle are straying on to the federal land across a common border, then the BLM needs to erect a fence.
The Shot whirled around the herd.
Marbury v. Madison gums up the works, again.
Federal courts have ruled that Nevada open range law does not apply to federal land because of the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
Those aren't facts. Please see post 199 and other links on this thread. Mr. Bundy has paid fees to Clark County. The BLM is corrupt and wants all farmers in the area out of business. The Feds are smearing Bundy. The new head of the BLM worked 8 years for Reid.
The BLM not acting to enforce Constitutional edicts.
BFD. The NAZIs had ~legal claim~ to Jewish businesses and property when they evicted them in Germany and the occupied territories. Jews and NAZI political opponents were also ~legally~ deported to death camps.
Conservatives value the Constitution over prevailing government dicta.
You’re not a conservative. Get lost.
Brilliant!
They could always stop following illegal orders and go home...
Yeah, I don’t think they will either.
The Marines only had me shooting out to 500 yards to earn my multiple Expert awards.
I can hit things out a LOT further than that now.
Depends on how it plays out. Gets nasty enough, some might.
Millions of Texas cattle are grazing around oil rigs and natural gas / fracking wells. The multi-use is actually ideal, because cows don’t care about the pumps.
I hope someone is taking pictures of all the J.B.T. and post their bio for everyone to see. I mean it’s our tax money at work. They might even ship in Horuchi for a cameo!
I heard Henry Bowman came in yesterday
I have two buddies - former operators - who like plugging feral hogs at over 1,000 yards. For fun. BTW feral hogs move a lot quicker than humans...
They aren’t militia. But they have my back. Me, I’m only good to about 200 yards. Also not militia.
PS NOT advocating violence, but only an idiot would fail to see the potential for it here.
Article IV, § 3, Clause 2, gives Congress authority over the lands, territories, or other property of the United States. It reads:
“The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States”.
“In brief, beyond the Fort Leavenworth and Paul dicta, appellees have presented no support for their position that the Clause grants Congress only the power to dispose of, to make incidental rules regarding the use of, and to protect federal property. This failure is hardly surprising, for the Clause, in broad terms, gives Congress the power to determine what are “needful” rules “respecting” the public lands. United States v. San Francisco, 310 U.S. at 310 U. S. 29-30; Light v. United States, 220 U.S. at 220 U. S. 537; United States v. Gratiot, 14 Pet. at 39 U. S. 537-538. And while the furthest reaches of the power granted by the Property Clause have not yet been definitively resolved, we have repeatedly observed that “[t]he power over the public land thus entrusted to Congress is without limitations.” United States v. San Francisco, supra at 310 U. S. 29. See Ivanhoe Irrig. Dist. v. McCracken, 357 U. S. 275, 357 U. S. 294 295 (1958); Alabama v. Texas, 347 U. S. 272, 347 U. S. 273 (1954); FPC v. Idaho Power Co., 344 U. S. 17, 344 U. S. 21 (1952); United States v. California, 332 U. S. 19, 332 U. S. 27 (1947); Gibson v. Chouteau, 13 Wall. 92, 80 U. S. 99 (1872); United States v. Gratiot, supra at 39 U. S. 537.”
http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/426/529/case.html
Gets nasty, they might no longer have that option.
No- not brilliant -merely transposition & substitution of homonym forms.
Any 3rd grader can do it-
Don`t they teach it in schools anymore?
” Mr. Bundy has paid fees to Clark County.”
No. Clark County, which knows the law, returned his check and told them they did not own the land.
But Obama wants to stop their frackin` cow farts.
Not much of a feral hog problem up here. I’ve pinwheeled my share of p-dogs though.
I’ve done some 3-gun work too. Fun and keeps my joints from rusting up. ;-)
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