Posted on 04/12/2014 10:31:38 PM PDT by servo1969
What screen names were they operating under?
The government acts as though we don’t understand they’ve stacked the courts with statists. Most Americans are plenty smart enough to read and understand the US Constitution for ourselves, and we see right through the malarkey some justices try to spin. So they put a bunch of statists on the courts and then make all sorts of rulings based on what? They’re making it up as they go. Again, it’s like they think we aren’t smart enough to understand their game. For example...
- Obamacare isn’t a tax and it isn’t an enumerated power of the federal government.
- Government can’t take our property unless it’s for public USE and we’re given fair compensation.
- Gay marriage is NOT a civil right per the 14th Amendment.
- No. They have no right to search us without a warrant and probable cause.
- The federal government has no enumerated power to control education within the states.
- Regulating interstate trade does NOT mean the government can tell you what you can and cannot grow on your own property.
The list is virtually endless, but I’m sure you’ve seen it all before. We are onto the statist’s game!
Confused. They didn’t use attack dogs, and they didn’t confiscate cattle?
Someone from BLM might pour a bottle of water on the ground at the ranch and declare it a wetland...
That or an endangered tortoise or too much CO2 or...
Well, just about any pretext to control use of a person’s land, EXCEPT illegal aliens crossing it. There’s no stopping THAT...
you have links?
Alex Jones broke the story about Dingy Harry on infowars. Then got Drudge to post it. Let’s give credit where credit is due. Alex Jones needs a big attaboy on this one!
Nope.
Link was first mentioned on FR.
Jones picked it up from here.
Afterwards, credit for the find was dropped
“It’s alllll about meeeeee!” -a.jones
Slimey corrupt reid, money, f’ing the voters to line his pockets - yea that says it all.
Sorry friend. Too much flailing all around. Links for what?
I can’t believe they caught Harry Reid. It’s common knowledge he’s as corrupt as they come, but catching him at it? That’s tough. Alex Jones does indeed deserve big kudos for it.
I think it was ray76, not Alex jones .
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3143497/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3142972/posts?page=97#97
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3142972/posts?page=98#98
Nope.
He doesn’t.
Links in post 73.
Some additional information.
My brother grazes cattle in Nevada. He has, of necessity, become very knowledgeable on Nevada grazing law.
Here is what he tells me about this case that I haven’t heard or read anywhere else:
In Nevada, ranchers could vote to establish or not establish grazing districts. Once these districts were established, the BLM would “manage” the grazing land. By statute, the fees paid are not to lease the ground, but for BLM to manage the range.
According to the Taylor Grazing Act, the BLM is there to manage the range for grazing - NOT for tortoises or solar panels. BLM has been so far off the reservation for so many years that it is unlikely they will ever return to performing their legal activities.
The area where Bundy grazes voted against a grazing district. This means the land remained open range, and by Nevada law, the Bundy family had established their grazing rights by historic precedence. This right is to the forage on the property - regardless of who owns the deed to the land. (analogous to mineral rights). Therefore, since the ranchers voted AGAINST having BLM manage the land, they had no right to demand management (grazing) fees.
Also - cattle have enhanced the environment for the tortoises. Cattle can travel farther and faster than a tortoise. By shitting, the cattle deposit food and water for the tortoise - making areas previously too far from water now hospitable to the tortoise.
Finally - Nevada range cattle are far different than most other cattle in the US - even other range cattle. Because of the harsh environment (over 300 acres required to support 1 cow for 1 year), native cattle do much better than non-native cattle. My brother tells me that non-native cattle will lose at least a year of production before they learn the range. So Bundy cannot just go buy more cows and be made whole - he needs HIS cows that were taken, or he needs to be compensated for the cows AND the lost production while replacement cows become acclimated.
I hope you’re not telling me you didn’t see video and pics of the fedguv using attack dogs against free citizens. They’re all over the place! Of course my definition of using attack dogs might differ from yours.
When an agent of the fedguv puts an attack dog between itself and the free citizen, that’s too much. Imagine a crowd of black protesters with the same scenario. Suddenly it becomes heinous.
“Confused. They didn’t use attack dogs, and they didn’t confiscate cattle?”
Yes, the had dogs, and yes they confiscated cattle, but as far as I know the dogs didn’t attack anyone, the cattle have been returned, and the BLM says that they will pay for the one’s that died. And yet you can still say that because “the BLM chose the time to leave the scene” that somehow they won? When armed men “leave the scene,” they are “retreating” according to what I know about armed conflict.”
There is a possibility that they pulled back to regroup and allow the hullabaloo to cool off some.
Once the attention is elsewhere, they return with more people, shoot some dogs, a horse or three, kids, and burn some buildings.
Then they pat themselves on the back for civilians well executed.
They were setting up for a Waco redux, and after getting caught their collective noses are out of joint.
They aren’t going to like letting this perceived “slight” go.
During discussion the connection with solar power came to the fore, AJ drew the Dingy Harry connection.
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