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This Incredible New Footage Shows How Close Bundy Standoff Came To A Massacre
Western Journalism ^ | 04/16/2014 | Tom Hinchey

Posted on 04/16/2014 4:38:20 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

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To: Alberta's Child

I am becoming of the view that the nation will fail, some other power will prey on the weakness, come in and offer the people a better deal and they will take it. It is a value proposition you know?


161 posted on 04/16/2014 11:33:29 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Jeff Head; Travis McGee
Okay. This guy is what, 400 yds away from the feds with an unscoped AK getting ready to shoot over a crowd of friendlies?

This stinks like a set up from a Travis McGee novel.

And notice everyone else on the bridge in the pictures. They look like sightseers, pointing and taking pictures.

162 posted on 04/16/2014 11:46:55 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: ponygirl

Long ago.


163 posted on 04/16/2014 11:50:33 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: Dead Dog

Not to mention the patriots had the high ground on 3 sides....


164 posted on 04/17/2014 12:01:41 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Thanks for the ping. This is well worth the time to watch.


165 posted on 04/17/2014 1:34:04 AM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: ought-six

Maybe this is just what the nation needs.


166 posted on 04/17/2014 4:04:30 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ponygirl

Oh, of course.

My assumption was Fed vs. US citizen(s).

In those cases, as with the muppet show that Obammie the Commie is playing with Putin, when the US backs down, it is ultimately an attack on US sovereignty and the US citizen.

I hope everyone is aware that what this Admin is doing in response to the neoUSSR (or should I say the EUSSR?) is meant to ENABLE Putin, right?

Obammie the Commie loves the Soviet style and he’s doing what he can to guarantee that Putin can take back the former bloc countries (I’ll have more flexibility after the election) and to give the neo-USSR total control over Europe.

The neo-USSR (really the USSR, their fall was not a fall but a strategic retreat to gather their sources and let America weaken from within), then joins with China to control the US.

Voila, Obammie the Commie aids in the overthrow of Western civilization, his ultimate community organizing goal.


167 posted on 04/17/2014 5:09:45 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: ponygirl

I have to agree with you.

I’ve been listening to him for years. His warnings about central banking and the fiat-based monetary policy they push and how they ultimately destroy currencies and economies was very important and excellent.

His warning Americans to become preppers was also excellent.

But everything he’s been doing in addition to that has been undermining these two efforts.

Several months ago he was pimping some motivational writer’s book (which seems to be a part of his marketing scheme to expand his demographic base to include eastern Indians living in America) about how to be unmistakable.

So on the one hand, he’s warning us with the most flagrant speech that the US dollar is going to collapse, has to collapse, there’s no way out. That when it does, there will be food shortages, riots, pillaging, martial law. We have to prepare for this “collapse” and then rebuild after.

Then he turns around and pimps this self-published book that says the exact same thing that every other self-help motivational books says (”You can do it. You just need to believe in yourself. No matter what anyone says, follow your dream, have faith, have confidence. And do it your own way, not someone else’s way.”).

And why was he pushing this? To teach his audience how they, too, can climb to the top of the ladder, find success, be their best, make money...

ALL THOSE WORLDLY, MATERIAL GAINS THAT HE WARNS US AGAINST PURSUING AND THAT HE PROPHESIZES WILL ALL BE ELIMINATED WHEN THE COLLAPSE COMES!!

What a hypocrite. What a consummate salesman.

Really, the guy could sell ice to Eskimos.


168 posted on 04/17/2014 5:18:59 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Beck is LDS, and they believe that America will collapse and that they will save it. Much of Beck’s ‘philosophy’ is derived from his religion. Nothing at all surprising in that.


169 posted on 04/17/2014 5:31:14 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: kiryandil

The alphabet agencies love to assess impossible fines, and sometimes it pushes the digit limitations on our pocket calculators. It’s no secret the charge amounts like a few hundred bucks a head per day for “trespassing cattle,” Bundy has 700-900 head, and they’ve been on him for over 20 years. Lowball estimate: $200 x 800 cattle x 365 days per year x 20 years.

That’s the thin air to which I was referring. Comes to about $600 Million, if they go full bore at it. Of course, they’ll want to demonstrate how full of compassion they are, and only insist on a few million. The key is it’ll be enough to ruin the rancher, and a “few million” is as good as a “few hundred million,” which was my point. Using government math, it’s way, way larger than the numbers we keep hearing.

That’s why I say “Wait a bit,” because the true assessment will be some unknown amount substantially more than Bundy can pay, even if he were willing to do so (he’s not).


170 posted on 04/17/2014 5:33:13 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: GladesGuru

“The White Horse” thing again?


171 posted on 04/17/2014 5:49:58 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Kartographer; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...
Kartographer writes: "We were one shot away from a Civil War"

Clearly if ever a CWII Ping was required - this event is it. I urge everyone on the list who hasn't seen it to both view the video, and read the informed comments of fellow Freepers on the thread.


172 posted on 04/17/2014 6:04:05 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: ponygirl
Me too. At one time one could learn a little from listening to him. Then, in between his crying and his cohorts sounding like a pack of hyenas, that [learning] went the way of the dodo bird. I never watched him on t.v. and don't go to the Blaze any more. I won't miss him.
173 posted on 04/17/2014 6:11:29 AM PDT by sport
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To: ForYourChildren

This is #1 of 78 videos on the subject. It might be an idea to download them all considering what happened at the Bundy Ranch this past week.<

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174 posted on 04/17/2014 6:11:30 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Sequoyah101

And a cry baby.


175 posted on 04/17/2014 6:13:40 AM PDT by sport
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To: Eagles6

I thought that looked a little suspicious. My first thought was “undercover cop”.


176 posted on 04/17/2014 6:18:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: ForYourChildren

bookmark for review later at home computer.


177 posted on 04/17/2014 6:50:29 AM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (everything written by me on FR is my personal opinion & does not represent my employer)
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To: Cyber Liberty
That has changed. BLM now says it's in excess of $500 Million. Fines.

No, that was last Friday. BLM now says it's over eleventy-skadillion dollars in fines.

178 posted on 04/17/2014 7:02:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: ponygirl

150 years ago,Beck would have been selling snake oil from the back of a wagon.Times change,he’s got radio and tv.


179 posted on 04/17/2014 7:05:34 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Not to mention there were thousands already on the way and probably a 100,000 ready to go.


180 posted on 04/17/2014 7:21:20 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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