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Judge says sexually assaulted 14-year-old 'wasn't the victim she claimed to be'
Dallas Morning News ^ | May 01, 2014

Posted on 05/02/2014 5:06:16 AM PDT by Wolfie

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1 posted on 05/02/2014 5:06:17 AM PDT by Wolfie
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Some of these old judges would make good Muslims, who think rape is always the fault of the raped. Next, they’ll require two male witnesses in order to file charges.

These judges need to be fired.


2 posted on 05/02/2014 5:08:42 AM PDT by txrefugee
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She was 14!!!! This judge should be removed and disbarred.


3 posted on 05/02/2014 5:10:26 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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No way am I going to comment on this without knowing a lot more detail. I am not saying this is the case here, but for instance if she misrepresented her age and the accused thought it was consensual because of that, I can see where sex with a minor would still be a crime but the charge of “sex offender” would be overboard.

On the other hand, if this wasn’t statutory rape but rather “rape rape” as some dimwit leftist once called it, I can’t see any justification for lessening terms.

In other words, it’s all in the details.


4 posted on 05/02/2014 5:10:51 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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A 14 year-old cannot give consent for sex anymore than they can sign a contract to buy real estate.


5 posted on 05/02/2014 5:12:15 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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I know that, which is why it would still be a criminal act. But if the accused was misled to believe that she was of age and was consenting, that should factor into the severity of the punishment, should it not?


6 posted on 05/02/2014 5:14:14 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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Me thinks some of these judges are perverts & pedophiles themselves. They should be disbarred. Shame on Texas.


7 posted on 05/02/2014 5:15:46 AM PDT by FES0844
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This case seems more complicated to me. The girl was 14 and the boy was 17 at the time. She texted him that she wanted to spend time with him and have sex with him but not at school. The girl had already had a child. Before I get flamed.. hear me out. If this is more of a “he said, she said, she got caught having sex and changed her mind”... why ruin someone’s life with a sexual predator identity? I am all for seeing that rapists get what they deserve; however, this case has a lot of oddities in it IMHO.


8 posted on 05/02/2014 5:16:08 AM PDT by momtothree
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The accused plead guilty to rape.

A man sentenced to five years probation by a Dallas County judge after admitting he raped a 14-year-old girl

9 posted on 05/02/2014 5:17:11 AM PDT by Wolfie
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See Post #9. He admitted to the crime.


10 posted on 05/02/2014 5:17:45 AM PDT by Wolfie
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But she was old enough to already have a baby?


11 posted on 05/02/2014 5:18:12 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: kevkrom

Considering it happened at school, no.
The problem is that the 14 year-old cannot give consent, even if the other party thought they could give consent. It’s a good reason not to have sex with people that could be underage.


12 posted on 05/02/2014 5:19:41 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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13 posted on 05/02/2014 5:20:25 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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The article isn’t clear to me. Did he admit to a “rape” as part of an agreement or did he truly force her physically to have sex? As usual with today’s articles... I can never get a clear cut picture out of it.


14 posted on 05/02/2014 5:21:08 AM PDT by momtothree
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I'm not defending the guy. I do feel the girl has a right to be protected, whatever her actions.

But why doesn't someone identify an underlying, much too common problem here? Once a student is 18 at the beginning of an academic year, they should not be allowed to have any contact with the younger students, if they're allowed in the school during normal hours at all.

I've been to some schools that isolate the Freshmen from the rest of the school. A few even separate the Grade 9 boys and girls, and keep a very close eye on the protection of the girls from upperclass boys. It's a real good idea in some environments, and it works.

15 posted on 05/02/2014 5:21:14 AM PDT by grania
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Having a baby would still not allow her to sign a real estate contract. She cannot legally say “Yes”. You cannot say “This 14 year old can consent to sex but this one cannot”.


16 posted on 05/02/2014 5:22:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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I’m not saying he isn’t guilty. Show me where I said he wasn’t guilty.

The problem with reading a news article is that “rape” as in “hold a knife to someone’s throat and forcibly have intercourse with them” and “rape” as in “your girlfriend wasn’t the legal age when you boinked her” are both reported as simply “rape”. Without more detail, it’s impossible to know which case it is.

Nor am I trying to suggest that I know the details of this particular case. I am only throwing out a hypothetical that says the judge might not be completely crazy here, depending on the specific circumstances.


17 posted on 05/02/2014 5:23:11 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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War on women!


18 posted on 05/02/2014 5:25:20 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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Believe me... I see and understand your point. Unfortunately, I see and hear about a lot of the 14 and 15 year old girls at our local high school. Some of them text boys they like and give BJ’s in the hallway or under the bleachers. Our local high school had an incident where a girl cried “rape” after coming home late. A party with alcohol served.. and a video where she willingly “did” several guys.. apparently laughing the entire time. The investigation stopped after the video surfaced. It is a terrible situation with morality today and that is why I try to look for the clearness of the case.


19 posted on 05/02/2014 5:25:37 AM PDT by momtothree
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“The girl’s mother said it seems like the judge “didn’t want to ruin” Young’s life. “But what about my daughter’s life?”.......

From what I read, assuming it is all true, the girls life was well on its way toward “ruin” long before this guy supposedly “raped” her.


20 posted on 05/02/2014 5:26:12 AM PDT by DaveA37
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