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Governor interested in results of Habersham raid investigation (Toddler flashbanged)
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | June 2, 2014 | Steve Visser

Posted on 06/03/2014 5:33:12 PM PDT by bamahead

Gov. Nathan Deal said Monday he’s awaiting an investigation of the botched drug raid in Habersham County that left a child on life-support to determine if executive action or state legislation is needed.

“Any time you have bad facts like this one, it does give you cause for concern. It’s one of those things that require a thorough investigation … to know what if anything we can learn from it.”

Habersham County District Attorney Brian Rickman said he is investigating whether officers violated the law when they used a controversial “no-knock warrant” for a raid on a Cornelia house Wednesday.

--SNIP--

“There is no question that you want to know how you happened and how could it have been prevented and that no-knocks are only being used where they are necessary,” Rickman told the Atlanta Journal Constitution Monday. “There is no question they are among the more dangerous for everybody involved.”

The lawyer representing the 19-month-old baby critically wounded by a police stun grenade is asking for state and federal investigators to review the Habersham raid. He said contentions by Sheriff Joey Terrell that officers did not know four small children were present in the house didn’t pass the smell test.

Police surveillance should have revealed that children had been playing in front of the the house for two months and that a van with four car-child seats was parked in the driveway that officers crept by the night of the raid.

“We believe they were criminally negligent because of the children,” Mawuli Mel Davis said.“This isn’t police work. This is cowboys.”

(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; flashbang; policestate; swat
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To: bamahead
Gov. Nathan Deal said Monday he’s awaiting an investigation of the botched drug raid in Habersham County that left a child on life-support to determine if executive action or state legislation is needed.

Neither, Mr Governor. What is required is prosecution. A stripping of immunity, criminal prosecution, then civil suits. Make it clear that you act recklessly, you're going to pay, with your job, your home, and in time served.

What is required is cajonies to stand up to the police department unions. I'm going to guess that you're not going to do that, which means yet another cover up.

The saddest part - the ONLY reason why this is news is that they tossed a flash bang into the crib. Had they MERELY bashed down the door and broke that little child's arm, that'd be nothing more than 'minor injuries were treated...'

There really has to be a threshold before ANY lethal or 'not quite lethal' force is used in an encounter, and I'm honestly at the point of 'the other person used lethal force, so officers responded in kind.' No longer a 'officers felt there was a danger...'

And absolutely the same standard for officers as private citizens.

22 posted on 06/03/2014 6:11:36 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I’m hearing a bunch of lame sounding excuses.

Americans aren’t even this reckless in most shooting wars.

They might be able to get the judge to pat the sheriff on the back with a smile (The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia anybody?) but that doesn’t change how it looks to God, or to men who know God.


23 posted on 06/03/2014 6:12:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: bamahead

Its about time Nathan Deal got on the stick. He has been a major disappointment so far. I am hopeful we can put a stop to this insane no knock raid stuff. Its insane.

This was a situation where 4 uniforms could have walked up to the door in broad daylight and effected a search warrant in the normal manner.


24 posted on 06/03/2014 6:17:58 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

They did a sting purchase... and just walked away and came back later when the dealer was GONE! They were not watching the house well enough to know the dealer had GONE!

Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid. There are laws against selling phony drugs now, so they didn’t even have to test what they got.

Will we ever come to the point where we stop excusing everything in the name of Caesar?


25 posted on 06/03/2014 6:30:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: bamahead
have they released the name of this hero of the empire yet???
26 posted on 06/03/2014 6:31:06 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>> There is no answer for this in the systems of man. Evil can take on any garb whatsoever.

Reminds me of my current, tedious refrain:

*** existence is intrinsically evil ***

... an evil that extends far beyond the psychotic fantasies and derangements of man and animals. And not bridled by theocratic constraints. A pernicious force that permeates every cognitive and material fiber, and yields to nothing. This isn’t to say, however, that existence is without its charm and beauty. But we are certainly not in a world without baked-in malevolence.

Everyone has the option to ignore Christ — to mock those that follow Christ. And those that do in my opinion are foolish.


27 posted on 06/03/2014 6:38:31 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

The segment of existence in which we find ourselves is tainted with evil.

That doesn’t mean there isn’t a part of it that is not thus tainted. We ought to not sound like we’re on Satan’s bragging team, after all. The devil loses his bragging rights at the pearly gates.


28 posted on 06/03/2014 6:41:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: bamahead

As a Christian, I know that the good Lord knows who tossed that explosive and I also know that that LEO will pay whatever is due if the price is not paid here. I’m hoping that that LEO cannot sleep at night without hearing poor, tiny Bou Bou’s cries of pain and agony from the explosive tossed into his playpen while he was asleep. I hope the sounds, smells and scene will forever haunt his waking and sleeping moments.

On the other hand, the city’s Police Chief knows he is going to lose this case no matter what he says or does.


29 posted on 06/03/2014 6:53:08 PM PDT by egfowler3 (Why do I even bother? No one's listening.)
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To: bamahead

I’m trying to figure out why so many people are focused on the issue of the kid. The baby makes this news sensational, but it would be no more appropriate if the victim had been the suspect. This shouldn’t be about them not knowing there was a kid in the house.
Police do not belong using military tactics and weapons in a civilian environment. Blindly tossing a flashbang is flat out wrong. Going immediately to SWAT and using that flashbang are the mistakes, not simply the lack of intel.

People are focusing on the wrong problem.


30 posted on 06/03/2014 7:20:55 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

The bigger question and easier way to get justice is to go straight back to the warrant. Somebody granted a warrant for the raid. Somebody made a sworn statement of the facts required not only for probable cause, but justifying the no knock. The first somebody should have the second somebody’s sensitive parts in a vice explaining why those facts weren’t true.


31 posted on 06/03/2014 7:32:58 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

These violent home invasion / no knock raids have to stop for everything except those rare hostage situations.
These no knock raids are easily mistaken for criminal home invasions, and residents are killed thinking they are under assault by criminals. Police are killing people during these assaults when people assume they are going to be raped and/or murdered
And then there is the police assumption that everyone in the building is an evil thug, leading to the violent reactions to women, children, people in bed.
The police are generating targets by acting like invading criminals. And they are turning the population into the enemy with every dead innocent.
Thus the excessive violence is creating what the police say they are afraid of. And a lot of dead bodies in the process.


32 posted on 06/04/2014 6:19:53 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes and besides the fact that Habersham County has always been a corrupt mess the cops have been getting this militarization from the Feds. They are always up there having meetings with the BLM people and the local cops.

So now instead of just sending out 4 uniforms to do the job they got hired for they have to stage these middle of the night raids. Its outrageous and it needs to be stopped there and also in the big cities.

I’m glad Nathan Deal is getting involved in this.


33 posted on 06/04/2014 9:25:24 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The Kabuki theater sure looks like it could use a lot less kabuki in it.


34 posted on 06/04/2014 10:43:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: egfowler3

Civil suit settled for “undisclosed figure” (millions), maybe the officer pressured to move on (hey there are a lot of other little cities in Georgia).

It’s easy to envision that the baby’s case, if it survives which it might... will linger on and on... and God could use such a scenario to raise awareness, but unless the iron is struck in the right way when it is hot, things could go from bad to worse. We want people who are bold to do the real right thing, not the Kabuki right thing.


35 posted on 06/04/2014 10:46:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: LevinFan

I think there’s a larger furore going on, and the baby has brought it to a focus. The questions will keep on getting asked how did things get this way, and there isn’t a plausible “sole answer” of “SCUM DRUG DEALER HERE — END OF STORY.”

That baby sure got little respect in this scene... but more importantly how much respect does the baby of Bethlehem get? In the church of that town, is it “My name is on their lips but their heart is far from me”?


36 posted on 06/04/2014 10:49:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Bingo. Will our countrymen and women stand for this, or will this be the time they stand up and refuse to allow it to happen?


37 posted on 06/04/2014 11:09:19 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: bamahead

Doesn`t surprise me. But “We the people” are “gun nuts” for wanting a couple of long guns and pistols while these jack boots toss grenades at kids.


38 posted on 06/04/2014 12:39:21 PM PDT by nomad
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Ought to pay for what? Since the pigs didn't know he wasn't even there, AND threw a bomb in a baby's face to boot, what reason is there to think this "drug culprit" is honestly guilty of anything? What the the pigs have done here gives rise to serious doubts over any claim they might have on the dude as far as I'm concerned.

Yes I said pigs. Twice. When I was a yoot I ran sort of on the fringes of the counter culture and that term was used a lot in some circles back then and having been there done that I think it was often misapplied, but more and more lately they seem to live up to the name.

39 posted on 06/04/2014 7:09:04 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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