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Impeachment off, GOP fears it will rally Obama Democrats
Washington Examiner ^ | June 6, 2014 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 06/08/2014 11:13:05 AM PDT by EveningStar

Despite anger in many quarters of the nation over the president's prisoner swap, Republicans are backing off impeachment threats because they fear it would rally President Obama's Democratic base and kill the GOP's chances to win the Senate, according to congressional insiders and sources.

“150 days out from a general election is not a realistic time to begin such a solemn and Constitutionally important process,” said one advisor to House GOP leaders.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2014issues; 2014midterms; gop; impeachment; impeachobama; obama
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To: zeestephen
GOP Checklist For 2014 Election: Impeachment - OFF

Immigration Enforcement - OFF

ObamaCare Repeal - OFF

Budget Freeze - OFF

Debt Ceiling Freeze - OFF

Amazing strategy isn't it.

Meanwhile the base walks away from the GOP.

And the low information voters think that nothing is wrong, partly because the GOP takes no action and says very little.

61 posted on 06/08/2014 11:49:36 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: C. Edmund Wright

All about politics? Absolutely not. It may be a political process employed by politicians but something as serious as impeachment should not entered into or not entered into because of political calculations. Impeachment should not be a political football to trash someone’s enemies and it should not be avoided by cowards because of political calculations. Either approach is utter bullshit.


62 posted on 06/08/2014 11:50:32 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: EveningStar

“However, this realistic view will be ridiculed by the ignoramuses who will see the Republicans as caving. “

Because you can’t spin the obvious truth. They are caving. Again. Considering your post history, siding with the GOP to avoid holding Obama to account is not shocking.

Justice delayed is justice denied.


63 posted on 06/08/2014 11:52:08 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: FreeReign

The party-first crowd will never see the light, putting Duty in second or third place to “winning”. They always promise future opposition, but right now it’s “not the right time”.

Duty - if you fulfill it they will come.


64 posted on 06/08/2014 11:52:33 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Right now the democrats don’t support American workers.

The Republicans don’t support American workers. For an entire generation both parties have shipped American jobs overseas, and now we’re all somehow suprized we are suffering massive trade deficits and our industry is collapsing?

Gimme a break. We are a sold-out country right now. Both of our political parties have signed on full-time to export AMERICAN JOBS.

This is very important.

More important than the things which are actually discussed on the board, in part anyway.

The problem is there is a segment of people in America which own the “means of production”. Those people moved a whole huge section of what used to be American jobs to the Peoples Republic of China.

(I know there were other destinations, but that is the big one)

A massive communist nation, to this day.

So all the former American jobs are now being done in (majority Chinese owned) factories in China, the only thing which is still American about any of it, is we still buy the same stuff.

Even though, we don’t make it anymore.

At some point one of our parties is going to stand up, and America will rebuild itself. With jobs, and manufacturing.

I am just saying, whichever party does that, will win over Americans by the tens of millions.

Nobody is supporting America jobs right now.

I am just saying, the GOP needs to run with this issue right now, before the democrats wise up and go first.

Wake up GOP.


65 posted on 06/08/2014 11:52:58 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

My mistake on McCarthy. I had only read headlines that he had a book out. However Col West HAS called for filing Articles. So I still prefer being aligned with him over you. Dude.


66 posted on 06/08/2014 11:52:59 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I believe yours is the pragmatic position. I also don’t like it, but what good would it do to stand on principle if such a stand ends up working against said principle?

So we think President Obama violated the law and constitution and want to impeach him to uphold the rule of law. If that antagonizes Democrat voters and ends in the reelection of otherwise weak Democrats (who we could have defeated otherwise), our stand on the rule of law works against it by further empowering the law breakers.

I would love for things to be different in America, but we are where we are regardless. Even worse, conservatives better brace themselves for two more years of disappointment even if we win the Senate. Sadly, we are almost certainly not going to have enough conservative senators after the next election to win an actual impeachment trial against the president. Think Clinton redux. We will likely have a hard enough time overcoming presidential vetoes as it is.


67 posted on 06/08/2014 11:55:20 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Well, I can't imagine being a member of the House, stating that the President is trashing the Constitution, believing that the President is trashing the Constitution, and then confessing that although it is my duty to impeach the President in order to protect the Constitution, I just can't do it because I fear that I might be criticized. What a confession of cowardice!

It would be far, far better to not complain at all.

68 posted on 06/08/2014 11:56:45 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: EveningStar
"Impeachment off, GOP fears it will rally Obama Democrats"

And that's why we're in the predicament we are. Pubbies are lowlife, stinkin' cowards.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

69 posted on 06/08/2014 11:57:58 AM PDT by wku man (Veterans, it's up to us to save the Republic...let's roll.)
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To: wku man

So are the people that empower them


70 posted on 06/08/2014 11:58:43 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: EveningStar

I’m with you. If we couldn’t remove Clinton for an OBVIOUS FELONY we’re not going to take down Obama on a foreign policy decision...certainly not with this Senate, and probably not even with a Senate that had enough Republicans to vote him out.

Just not going to happen and will BACKFIRE big-time.

But I wouldn’t mind seeing the Republicans USE THE COURTS to try to get Obama to follow the law in other areas - such as Health Care.


71 posted on 06/08/2014 11:59:42 AM PDT by BobL
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To: EveningStar

GOP fears everything. That is why our nation is in such a mess.


72 posted on 06/08/2014 11:59:52 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: FreeReign

“Issue after issue we do nothing while the country is being destroyed.”

Because elections have consequences. That’s a simple fact that some apparently can’t grasp. We conservative Republicans do not have the political power to accomplish what you and I want. Win elections first.

That is why I say it’s better to vote for 80% allies (RINOs who survive primaries—and we should definitely be trying to defeat them in those primaries) than stand on principle by not voting for them in the general elections. We have to build political power to control the agenda. That’s how it works, and the Democrats know this very well. That’s probably why they’re experts at turning out their voters, because winning elections is the vital first step toward doing anything! It doesn’t matter how good you are or what you want to do, if you don’t have the votes, you lose!


73 posted on 06/08/2014 12:02:54 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: EveningStar

impeachment was never “on” for the GOPe


74 posted on 06/08/2014 12:05:47 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: wku man

“GOP fears...”

That’s the article’s characterization. The GOP’s position could just as easily be characterized as wise pragmatism...


75 posted on 06/08/2014 12:06:36 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: Tau Food

Exactly so. Well said.

I love it when people save a lot of typing...


76 posted on 06/08/2014 12:07:55 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: CitizenUSA

Name these mythical 90% allies? Mittens? Show me ONE conservative thing on his record much less 80% of it.

Show me the 80% that fought for DOMA. Against gays/trannies in the military. Show me the 60% that sided with us on ANY of the major issues.

Show me 80% successfully completed Issavestigations.

Then tell me how electing RINOs is ‘better’ then electing an outright Democrat. Because if they side with the Democrats they ARE democrats.


77 posted on 06/08/2014 12:10:08 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: CitizenUSA

Seems at odds with

“Good requires self discipline and sacrifice. It’s a higher, harder goal to reach, while being bad simply means letting selfish instincts rule.”

I wonder which is true.


78 posted on 06/08/2014 12:14:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: EveningStar

Take back the schools, stop dumbing down American students.


79 posted on 06/08/2014 12:15:21 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: EveningStar
“The point is, if you are going to combat presidential lawlessness under circumstances where it now looks like we’ve got two and a half years to go with an administration that seems to have thrown caution to the wind and is just moving ahead with the most extravagant parts of the agenda and is going to use its raw power to try to accomplish this, you can’t have a sensible adult conversation with how the U.S. Constitution deals with presidential lawlessness without at least broaching the subject of impeachment,” [McCarthy] said.

You ain't seen nothing yet! Well actually I think McCarthy is old enough to remember the 1960s.

The aged New Left 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats and their ideological issue (Obama and younger members of his Administration) will have no problem using the "nuclear option" -- and I don't mean having their MSM screaming RACISM! 24/7 to protect their hold on power after decades of getting it.

Race riots.

I remember reading back in the 1960s that the inner city riots were fomented by these pukes. Here's something that's closer to today.

In 2000 the MSM were full of the phrase "the will of the people" vis-a-vis the Bush-Gore election controversy.

The Dems tried to spark deadly race riots (to enforce the "will of the people"?) but to his credit Al Gore stopped his Party's efforts.

A quote from one column (November 19, 2002) of Frum's I post often contains this (the quote is by Karenna Gore) and it's about the 2000 post-election day turmoil. It sure seemed to me that the Dems were ready to spark race riots -- which IMO the MSM would have demanded that Bush concede and bow to the "will of the people" (a phrase often included in MSM reports on the turmoil).

"He [Al Gore] said, 'We have to do what's best for the country, and it is not good for the country to have this kind of divisiveness.' And he was on the phone, really calling off the dogs. There were people who wanted to fan the … the flames of the racial issue and have real unrest. And he was on the phone asking them not to, because of what was best for the country not because of what was best for him politically. And that's really who he is."

Looks like NR moved (or deleted?) it. here's another source.

80 posted on 06/08/2014 12:15:48 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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