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Sen. Cruz formally gives up Canadian citizenship
Associated Press ^ | Jun 10, 2014 8:16 PM EDT | Will Weissert

Posted on 06/10/2014 7:11:53 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: sten
‘natural born citizen’ is a subset of ‘US citizen’

Of which there are two sub-sets, "naturalized" and "natural born" (or, if you prefer, citizen-at-birth).

Cruz was never naturalized, was he?

Ergo, he was of the natural-born variety.

101 posted on 06/11/2014 9:36:32 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: okie01

the implication of ‘after WW2’ would be the months following the war... not 20 years later in korea or vietnam

if you meant kids of those stationed overseas, then there was no point in bringing up WW2.


102 posted on 06/11/2014 9:36:46 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: okie01
maybe you'll have an easier time with pictures


103 posted on 06/11/2014 9:39:58 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: okie01

it’s really not that complicated

unless that’s what you’re trying to do... muddy the waters to get ‘your guy’ into the office


104 posted on 06/11/2014 9:41:29 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
You distinguish between jus sanguinus, jus soli and "natural-born" citizens.

American citizenship law makes no such distinction.

105 posted on 06/11/2014 9:48:33 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: okie01

whatever

logic doesn’t matter to you. you want ‘your guy’ to win, Constitution be damned.

no different from all the 0bama supporters


106 posted on 06/11/2014 9:55:08 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

He’s a natural born citizen and eligible.


107 posted on 06/11/2014 9:56:13 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: sten
Slow learner, huh?

Well, I tried...

108 posted on 06/11/2014 10:07:49 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: bjorn14

You have fallen for a hoax and a forgery. John McCain was born at the “Family Hospital” which was really a small clinic at the Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone. Senator Mc Cain’s birth certificate was signed by Navy Captain W.L. Irvine, director of the Coco Solo medical facility.
The Family Hospital was replaced with a new full service hospital at a later date.
Also, Roberta McCain, the Senator’s mother is still alive at age 102 and she knows where she gave birth!
Here’s a link to back up what I’m saying:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/05/john_mccains_birthplace.html


109 posted on 06/11/2014 10:33:52 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: okie01

i learned all i needed on the subject...

from the document signed in 1787.

i suggest you do some reading


110 posted on 06/11/2014 10:51:51 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
2 citizen parents and born on the soil. it’s that simple.

If it was that simple you wouldn't be making all these posts.

111 posted on 06/11/2014 10:58:15 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: sten
‘natural born citizen’ is a subset of ‘US citizen’

Where is that defined?

112 posted on 06/11/2014 11:01:33 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I must respond because of the sad amount on constitutional ignorance being argued with such futility. Please don”t confuse Citizenship with eligibility to be president. Please read Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution sets the requirements to hold office. A president must:

be a natural-born citizen of the United States;[note 1]
be at least thirty-five years old;
have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.

“Natural born” means born inside the borders of this country. That is why Henry Kissinger could not be president— Arnold Swartznager could not be president and why Ted Cruz cannot be president. It is right there in the constitution. It is so foreign born cannot invade the country and take it over.

I will gladly Amend it to allow Canadian born but until there is an amendment ,we who love the Constitution must read it.


113 posted on 06/11/2014 11:05:23 AM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: sten

“The Constitution does not say, in words, who shall be natural born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to determine that.”—SCOTUS, Minor v. Happersett (1875).


114 posted on 06/11/2014 11:12:56 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: CatherineofAragon
...."That is one good-looking family".... It's exactly what this country needs...I'm sick and tired of watching the current first lady(?), jumping rope, doing hula-hoops, rap-dancing etc....and the White House being used as a playground for adults!


115 posted on 06/11/2014 11:13:34 AM PDT by caww
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To: sten
I'm familiar with the document, my friend.

I'm also familiar with American citizenship law.

Good day.

116 posted on 06/11/2014 11:20:14 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: SADMILLIE
“Natural born” means born inside the borders of this country.

And where is that defined?

is why Henry Kissinger could not be president— Arnold Swartznager could not be president and why Ted Cruz cannot be president.

Unlike Kissinger and Schwartzenegger, both of whom were born in foreign countries of non-citizen parents, Cruz was born in a foreign country with one citizen parent. And under the laws in place at the time that conveyed natural born citizen status upon him.

It is so foreign born cannot invade the country and take it over.

I'll take my chances with Cruz.

I will gladly Amend it to allow Canadian born but until there is an amendment ,we who love the Constitution must read it.

And I might support such an amendment if you can point out where the Constitution defines natural born citizen.

117 posted on 06/11/2014 11:21:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

it is that simple.

i’ve said the same thing time and again to people that can’t spend 5 minutes reading the posts and instead respond from emotion.

same things i was saying in 2008 and 2012 when 0bama was on the ballet.


118 posted on 06/11/2014 11:28:40 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: DoodleDawg

where is ‘independence’, ‘freedom’ or ‘liberty’ defined in the Constitution?


119 posted on 06/11/2014 11:29:30 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SADMILLIE

Here is the section of the current U.S. Law that pertains to Senator Cruz’s natural born citizenship status:
8 USC 1401
“The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years...”

All sections of the U.S. Code of Laws function under the Constitution unless and until they are ruled to be unconstitutional.

No court has ever ruled that there is a difference between a “natural born citizen” and a “citizen of the United States at birth.”
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/8/12/III/I/1401


120 posted on 06/11/2014 11:30:02 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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