Posted on 06/22/2014 11:21:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
lol
That is exactly how I think the “Brave New World” would come about.
I think he is absolutely correct ... Strengthen the borders and provide work visas to those already here doing the work no one else will do. If you believe this issue is going to get solved by a hard line in the sand, then you will be very disappointed. It is a very difficult issue and it needs some common sense solutions.
there ARE an awful lot of very lonely young women in SF...
(for obvious reasons)
Legal immigration via what you are talking about is a part of controlling the border.
Isn’t that the truth!
Securing the dang border FIRST, gets NO air time anywhere. No one is talking non-stop about BORDER SECURITY FIRST. Everyone talks about immigration non-stop.
No border security first, means no discussion on any immigration calculus. Who says that? No one.
Who among our favorites is making that point????
NO ONE! Seems they are fixed on permanent chat about immigration-only, bent on avoiding BORDER SECURITY FIRST, entirely.
We’re getting played even by conservatives. Red meat and riling us up, and NOTHING but occasionally a mention.
We should be at war over that one, single, simple point.
CRICKETS.
This should be a mounted campaign, but they’re playing us like a violin. Our guys are playing us like a violen.
San Fran is more famous as the capital of homosexual men, which was what I thought everyone would think of first.
Oops.
VIOLEN - violin
Howzabout enforcing the laws we have now Rand?
Seal the border for 3 years randy then come talk to me about guest worker program, until then you are john mcstain to me, dead as long as you shovel the chamber of crony capitalism BS.
Rand Paul’s libtard border policies are identical to Obama, Kerry and Clinton’s Not surprisingly, so are his positions on foreign policy and “gay rights.”
FURP!! Just anther treasonous amnesty pimp!!
Less than 10% of the illegals work in farm labor.
The ‘jobs Americans won’t do’ line is BS!
The ones that work at all are taking American jobs, many are good paying jobs in construction and meat cutting.
The H1B Technical and Professional Visa works fine, but there are disputes about what the quota should be.
The H2A Ag worker temp visa is a mess. It has an unlimited quota but is not used very much. First off the employer has to advertise the job, which is job that is set in the future. He must then negotiate a contract with Dept of Labor with firm start and finish dates, and a farmer never can predict when the job will start and finish. Then the 60% rule kicks in. After the guest worker begins, if a domestic worker show up looking for a job before 60% of the contract has expired, the employer has to hire the domestic worker. Keep in mind, this domestic worker might be an illegal with fake papers. Then the three quarters rule kicks in. If the employer wants to get rid of the temp guest worker, he has to pay him three fourths of what he would have earned thru the contract. All this stuff needs to be fixed.
The H2B Non Ag worker visa works pretty well but the quota is only 61,000.
Both the H2A and H2B are seasonal temp work visa and benefit the southern states over the northern states because the season starts earlier
Many employers need guest workers for longer term than seasonal so they need a new temp visa that would be for 2 years and can be renewed for an addition 2 years, or possibly 3 and 3 years.
And it all has to be done at the same time because the worker that comes in on the H2A will go awol/illegal, move to Dallas, and get a higher paying job as a welder or brick layer.
People are foolish to think they can control illegal immigration with enforcement only. If the guest worker programs are inadequate, there is no way to stop the illegals or those that want to hire the illegals.
Rand Paul's immigration speech...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...
This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.
Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reformLatinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Another one bites the dust.
Hey Republicans! ILLEGAL LATINO IMMIGRANTS WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER VOTE FOR YOU!!! NEVER
Only a libertarian knucklehead would propose bailing-out the basement, then filling-in the gopher holes.
Ron walks in and sees Rand playing Russian roulette.
Ron Paul: “Put the gun down, son. Don’t let the conservatives get to you!”
Rand Paul: “Nope, I’m doing it. I’m shooting myself.”
Ron Paul: “Please son!”
Rand Paul: “And since I blame you, Pop—you’re next!”
Heh
Just where does Paul think these people are going to go to work?
yes you are correct.
very much so.
(but since so many of the men are homosexuals, there are a lot of lonely women in that city)
we live for hope
This is great news! If Paul self-destroys, it will clear the path for Ted Cruz.
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