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To Those Who Wait to Conceive (bad news)
Crisis Magazine ^ | June 26, 2014 | MARK D. OSHINSKIE

Posted on 06/26/2014 3:33:09 PM PDT by NYer

Infertility Comic

It saddens me to know couples in their late thirties trying unsuccessfully to conceive. The notion that it is easy to conceive at any age under 40—and perhaps beyond that—has taken firm, but mistaken, hold in our culture. The American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology recently published a meta-analysis concluding that women’s fertility begins to drop significantly at 32 and drops rapidly at 37. This study reaffirms a similar 2008 statement by the American Society for Reproductive Medicine.

Most have not heard of these studies. Many who know the general concept discount it. The broad postponement of parenthood rests on a series of dubious cultural notions.

Initially, the belief that one has at least until one is 40 to conceive probably gained currency because 40 is a round number. It provides a defined amount of prospective liberty to sample the companion field, develop one’s career, travel and pursue other personal interests. But the body is calibrated to nature, not round numbers or the fulfillment of bucket lists. Many of us procrastinate in many aspects of our lives. Americans manage conception as they do money or weight: they focus on the present and leave little margin for the future.

Americans have widely internalized the notion that, despite many millennia of human history, biology has recently changed and they are suddenly aging better than their parents; fifty is the new forty, etc. Our parents’ generation may have smoked more, eaten less carefully, not gone to the gym as much, dyed their hair less, not dressed as fashionably and listened to less hip music through their thirties than do their modern counterparts. But looking slightly younger, having Jay-Z on your I-Pod or being able to run 5Ks does not reset the biological clock or enhance reproductive function.

Further, most Americans are exceptionalists; we think that rules about risk and failure that apply to others don’t apply to us. Our books and movies foster the belief that the individual is the master of his/her own destiny, and that the force of will can surmount any challenge. Those who have heard of the biological clock think that they will have exceptional reproductive longevity. Or the exception can become the rule: some think that because their 41 year old neighbor—who has had her first child years before—is pregnant, a first time pregnancy is virtually guaranteed at 38.

Our culture has also developed the dubious notion that it is never too late to try anything. From the 80-year-old skydiver on down, the “Man Bites Dog” media feeds the notion that any age-based limits on conduct are intrinsically suspect. Mothers or grandmothers who hint at a fertility end date are dismissed as archaic and insensitive. But science bears out their concerns.

Our culture also encourages us to believe we can all have it all. Many men and women postpone childbearing in order to obtain advanced degrees in our formal education-intensive culture, build a career and save money. But doing so projects parental material desires onto kids, who are as happy playing with a kitchen pan as with a store bought toy and care little about the kind of dwelling they inhabit. Perhaps some money-making can wait. It may also be that we can have it all, just not all at one time. It may also be that we can’t have it all.

Perhaps most fundamentally, the willingness to postpone conception until one’s late thirties is based on the culturally encouraged, but mistaken feminist notion that women and men are equal. Laws and cultural messages can advance gender equality, but biology need not conform to these notions.

Though it seems paradoxical, because they were so widely touted as boons to women, synthetic birth control and abortion have placed women at a great disadvantage to men. As both Pope Paul VI prophesied in 1968 and as current Fed Chair/then college professor Janet Yellen chronicled in 1992, these technologies have given full, consequence free (save for STIs) access to multiple women’s bodies for decades. As long as women remain sexually available, men can outwait women looking critically for Mr. Right and cause her to accept Mr. Right Now in her late thirties. Men can wait considerably longer for Mrs. Right Now. It’s not fair, but this scenario plays out frequently.

When fertility is lost to time, Americans rely, as they do in other realms, on technology and public subsidies. But IVF is fraught with significant, glossed over problems, from the pain and risk of treatments to the complicated pregnancies, embryo surpluses—both in utero and lab frozen—eugenic embryo selection, post-implantation selective reduction, and increased risk of birth defects, as well as great cost to personal and societal medical and insurance resources.

And IVF often fails for those over 35. By then, a woman’s egg supply and quality have lessened. Thus, the process is ramped up: eggs are frozen, or harvested from well-pedigreed college students, who risk their health and may endanger their own fertility to enable older women to do what our society typically considers indecent: allow their husbands to have the child of another woman. Like many commercial processes, surrogacy allows child-bearing to be outsourced to low income women in the US and abroad.

Postponing parenthood is a high stakes risk. Americans should carefully examine the cultural notions and technologies enabling this growing trend.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: conception; ivf; women
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To: NYer

I would have loved to start a family already. However, I always had the notion that I should be financially comfortable before bringing another life into this world. After graduating college, I haven’t found anything resembling a career. I’m only 26, I suppose I have time.. But all I’m hearing is “tick, tick, tick”!


21 posted on 06/26/2014 5:03:17 PM PDT by same old song
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To: bicyclerepair

Yep. All those women who have chosen education and success over child rearing are just making sure that more of the next generation come from less educated and less successful families.

I don’t really get the point of it either. Making enough money to support yourself as a single person is not that hard. Why kill yourself trying to get ahead if you don’t have a family you need to support? Just to save up to buy a big empty house?


22 posted on 06/26/2014 5:10:25 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Yep. All those women who have chosen education and success over child rearing are just making sure that more of the next generation come from less educated and less successful families.

That makes no sense at all. Education raises your status. Work experience raises your status. A well educated couple having children later in life raises higher status children.

This article is propaganda. Like it or not, nowadays in the western world, having children young is considered lower class, while having children older is higher class.

And yes, educated, worldly people know that you can help nature along with proper diet, exercise and a healthy lifestyle. Normal women approaching or at 40 can have children, and society is better off for it.

23 posted on 06/26/2014 5:26:43 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: Boogieman

Good point.


24 posted on 06/26/2014 5:27:36 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: southern rock
Women should be married off young, be housewives and mothers, and the man should be the breadwinner.

And that's how it is.

25 posted on 06/26/2014 5:30:27 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: southern rock
The only status that matters is passing genes down to future generations. What impresses you personally does not matter. It's survival of the fittest that matters.

Right now, most third world people have the highest status, because they outbreed the industrialized world.

26 posted on 06/26/2014 5:32:57 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason
Right now, most third world people have the highest status, because they outbreed the industrialized world.

Which is precisely why they are the third world. Oh yes, please, let's breed ourselves into that way of life. Can't wait.

27 posted on 06/26/2014 5:36:26 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: Age of Reason
Women should be married off young, be housewives and mothers, and the man should be the breadwinner. And that's how it is.

And that is how it is for families that have sentenced themselves to blue collar, working class existences with little hope of getting out or moving up. Where does higher education for either parent fit into your prole fantasy?

28 posted on 06/26/2014 5:40:10 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: NYer

The best gift that my wife and I gave to my oldest children by having when we were younger was the many more years they got to have with their grandparents.


29 posted on 06/26/2014 5:44:07 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: NYer

The thief?

Contraception


30 posted on 06/26/2014 5:56:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: eddie willers

I think you are mistaken.


31 posted on 06/26/2014 5:57:57 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

just have unprotected sex with your spouse but both say you dont’ want a baby. you’ll have one in no time.


32 posted on 06/26/2014 5:58:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NYer

not everyone should have kids. raising them right needs to be done well. not everyone ought to have them. half-assing it is the reson why we’re dealing with a lot of social problems now.


33 posted on 06/26/2014 6:00:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NYer

I’ve also noticed that older women give birth to children who later become autistic.


34 posted on 06/26/2014 6:05:25 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: same old song

You’ve been on FR since you were 14?

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35 posted on 06/26/2014 6:09:16 PM PDT by Mears
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To: southern rock

Sounds like the opening scene of Idiocracy.


36 posted on 06/26/2014 6:09:27 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: NYer

True. So what do we do? Personally, I encourage any young people I tactfully can, to get married early and have lots of kids.


37 posted on 06/26/2014 6:09:48 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: NYer

In America, Asian and East Indian cultures value higher education and professional careers. I have noticed they often live in multi-generational households. They have kids before it’s too late, keep growing their careers, and the children are cared for by older relatives.


38 posted on 06/26/2014 6:12:25 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: southern rock
Like it or not, nowadays in the western world, having children young is considered lower class, while having children older is higher class.

I remember caring what other people thought about stuff like that until I was about 23. Then I figured things out for myself.

39 posted on 06/26/2014 6:14:02 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Mears

Yes. Mom raised me well.. She’s been on since ‘98.


40 posted on 06/26/2014 6:25:44 PM PDT by same old song
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