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Mrs. Bentley may have the capacity to “communicate a choice.” But this is just one component of capacity.

She does not understand the relevant information, does not appreciate the situation and its consequences, and cannot reason about treatment or care options...

Really? What EXACTLY is the "relevant information" that a person needs to recognize that they are hungry or thirsty? What capacity of "reason" does a person need to understand that they don't want to be murdered?

1 posted on 06/30/2014 12:06:10 PM PDT by wagglebee
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A fun time will be had by all.

These activists should be first in line.


2 posted on 06/30/2014 12:06:42 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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3 posted on 06/30/2014 12:07:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 06/30/2014 12:07:47 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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At least the libertarians are honest when they let us know that they just want to kill the elderly and disabled for the money.


6 posted on 06/30/2014 12:10:24 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I understand that newly graduated doctors no longer take the “Hippocratic Oath” Is that true?? Anyone?


7 posted on 06/30/2014 12:11:32 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Remember Terri Schiavo? They said she was in a blissful state of euphoria as they starved her to death.


12 posted on 06/30/2014 12:16:01 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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“Capacity” is defined as “making the choice we think he should make.” If he makes another choice, he’s proved he lacks capacity, and the choice they want is forced on him.

One way to tell evil people, if they’re not showing a Dark Mark and their eyes don’t glow red in the dark, is that they want the power of life and death over others. You can also check to see if their profession is “bioethicist.”


13 posted on 06/30/2014 12:18:18 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I don't feel obligated to provide you with a non-boring gun.)
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They are rushing. All they have to do is wait about 20 years, and this will be the way 0bamacare “treats” the elderly.

Except for the ruling elite. They will get the best of care.


14 posted on 06/30/2014 12:19:33 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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So, even if someone states that they want to live, medical professionals can disregard this, because they know better than their patient? This is insane.


15 posted on 06/30/2014 12:21:18 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Somebody try to convince me that seeking medical care after the age of 65 is a good idea. I’m way past believing the medical profession wants what’s best for me.


16 posted on 06/30/2014 12:23:58 PM PDT by grania
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This is done now with the “do not resuscitate” order. No food, no water, just morphine.


20 posted on 06/30/2014 12:31:47 PM PDT by huldah1776
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This is not going to be a popular post but after watching my step-father die at age 97 after 6 grueling months begging someone to kill him - he finally refused to eat. We let him. It was kind.

My 64 year old sister who has been homeless for several years after disowning our family, finally drank herself into cirrhosis of the liver and it is terminal period. She will quit eating and drinking when she wants and I will do nothing to intervene.

I don’t think God would want me to force my will on these people who are dying and want to hasten it naturally.


24 posted on 06/30/2014 12:44:05 PM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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WELL if “they” can call a baby a fetus.. then..
renaming geezers as “geeters” is not far away..

Killing “feters” or “geeters” may not then be murder..

In the “name game” Game.. because it is a game to them..
It's so pathological it is psychotic..
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Same game Stalin, Hitler, and Mao played..
You know in the"Animal Farm".. where humans are bred, sheared, milked and butchered like farm animals..

Much like what is done in New York, Massachusetts.. and most all of the larger cities in the United States.. Not to speak of Canada, The UK, most all of URP.. and of course Russia, China, India, and all of South and Central America..

Mexico is just a pig farm.. like the mideast..

26 posted on 06/30/2014 12:51:04 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Serious question, what is new in this? They have been denying food and water to elderly patients for a while.


27 posted on 06/30/2014 12:52:53 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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Well, it’s simple really - create these panels of bureaucrats and political appointees to determine if a person is worth feeding or not.

Then, abide by their decision. The family and the patient should have no say in the matter.

Eventually we can apply this to anybody, at any age, if they are deemed a burden on society.

It works like this - anybody can bring a petition before the panel. The panel considers the request (the “patient” and family are not allowed to testify, unless it is the family trying to get rid of the “patient”) Once the panel decides the life in question is a burden on society, the doctors (if the “patient” is under a doctor’s supervision administers the euthanasia drugs. If the patient is not under a doctor’s supervision, a licensed euthanizer is dispatched to dispatch the “patient”; using a dart gun if the “patient” is mobile.

This is a great concept, and certainly is a far cry from the Death Panels that Sara Palin was hollering about!!


28 posted on 06/30/2014 12:54:03 PM PDT by GilesB
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According to the death lobby, expressing a desire to not be murdered is proof that you are not competent to make such a decision. If you were competent, you would want to be tortured to death. Therefor, all choices will be recorded as a request to be murdered.


29 posted on 06/30/2014 12:57:11 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee, welcome home we missed you! ~ Þ)
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Sounds like the same people who brought us Obamacare as a punishment.
30 posted on 06/30/2014 1:04:07 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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As soon as democrats 'get' this liberal solution to the elderly they'll say, "why make old people suffer - why don't we take them out back and shoot them?"...

Oh, and the same will apply to 'political prisoners' - you know, the people who dare to stand up to democrat thugs... Political prisoners of the future.

Take 'em back out and shoot them.

If Republicans 'drag their feet' about killing citizens because of their political beliefs, then Obama will just have to act on his own. Congress is a meaningless rubber stamp organization - just like in Russia, China, Cuba, North Korea - and all the other hellholes cultures... right??

Of course Obama will do this with the 'approval' of this top thugs... The New York Times will accept it. Nat Hentoff will be the only democrat journalist who will see the truth...

31 posted on 06/30/2014 1:13:04 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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I have an idea, a modest proposal. Why don't we establish a program for diminishing the influence of these ethicists. We begin eliminating their physical bodies by snipping off each appendage joint by joint. Without further studies or evaluations, it should be apparent that their influence will diminish rapidly, though, of course, with some discomfort and inconvenience to the subject. A journal would have to be established, of course. We could call it the Journal of Medical Snipping.
32 posted on 06/30/2014 1:46:13 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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"They want nursing home or hospital personnel to starve such patients to death even if they willingly eat and drink!"

Well, I'm surprised that the "nursing" home just doesn't go all the way and just stop bathing them, giving them fresh linen,clothing, providing dental care, etc. Just lock them in their rooms and forget about them.

But to be sure, these "nursing homes" won't forget to collect their fees and payments from the government or "patients" in their so-called "nursing home" for the wonderful "care" they are providing. Hell, just turn off the heat and AC to save money too!

May divine retribution come down on the heads of the monsters now living amongst us.

34 posted on 06/30/2014 1:52:32 PM PDT by StormEye
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