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McCain, Graham: Some in GOP 'Get It' on Immigration
News Max ^ | July 6 2014 | Greg Richter

Posted on 07/06/2014 12:09:17 PM PDT by PoloSec

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21 posted on 07/06/2014 12:34:31 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: PoloSec

Apart from amnesty, what is in”immigration reform” this time? I truly don’t know.


22 posted on 07/06/2014 12:35:11 PM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: PoloSec

BTTT


23 posted on 07/06/2014 12:38:08 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (I am a proud citizen of an idea called America.)
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To: Hostage; All
"COMPLETE BS. GRAHAM IS A LIAR AND A LUNATIC."

Not correct.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/us/cruz-tries-to-claim-the-middle-ground-on-immigration.html?_r=1&

Cr4uz supports letting them st5ay and has NEVER stated he would deport or support self-deport policies.

I challenge you to substantiate any claim to the contrary.

24 posted on 07/06/2014 12:38:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: kevslisababy

Even more “legal” immigration to drive the high tech Americans out of their jobs.


25 posted on 07/06/2014 12:39:47 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Mariner

You’re quoting the NY Times. They are even bigger liars than Graham The article you link to has been discussed here on FR weeks ago and was thoroughly torn apart and debunked.


26 posted on 07/06/2014 12:48:20 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: PoloSec


27 posted on 07/06/2014 12:55:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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Debunk it again.

Cruz stated policy is to legalize those here now and seal the border...possibly allowing chain migration of family members.

He states he opposes "Amnesty" but then defines "amnesty" ONLY as allowing citizenship.

I Challenge you again, cite references that prove otherwise.

I know you cannot as none exist.

Yet for some reason you're contending that Cruz does not support "Amnesty". By that definition neither do McCain or Graham.

28 posted on 07/06/2014 12:57:38 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: cripplecreek

That sums it up. Thanks for posting.


29 posted on 07/06/2014 12:58:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mariner

Look up his legislative amendments online. It’s all there. Do your own homework.

The fact that you quote the NY Times as some sort of authority is enough to disqualify you from any serious discussion.

Do your homework thoroughly without resorting to the NY Times who are known liars.


30 posted on 07/06/2014 1:05:45 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: PoloSec

Election’s over.

These two have stopped running to the Right and have reverted to their true RINO forms.


31 posted on 07/06/2014 1:08:51 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: PoloSec

“I’m not sure that statement is true (Cruz supporting legalization without citizenship)”

Yea, it is, or at least was, true. It actually is kind of a middle ground in that it delays the demise of the Republican Party by an extra 10 to 20 years, as those people (hopefully) will not be voting. Of course their US-born kids will, as well as the “dreamers”. The Senate Bill basically killed-off the Republican Party in 5 to 10 years, by giving citizenship to everyone that is here already.

Hopefully Cruz is informed on this now...the problem is the DEMOGRAPHICS and nothing more, if we are to survive as a two-party state. Any “solution” that doesn’t address it means the end of the Republican Party.

They NEED TO GO HOME, and then apply to come here legally, and we’ll let in an amount that we can absorb, without ruining the country in the process.


32 posted on 07/06/2014 1:09:18 PM PDT by BobL
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You choose to debate the source rather than the facts.

And the facts are that Ted Cruz would legalize those now here illegally. You cannot source a single fact to the contrary.

Not one.

33 posted on 07/06/2014 1:22:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: PoloSec

Graham is nuts


34 posted on 07/06/2014 1:40:21 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Mariner

Your facts are BS and your source is BS.

You won’t get anywhere on this site with using the NY Times as a ‘fact’ reference. You also won’t get anywhere with using Graham’s statements before the press as ‘factual’.

Cease and desist your posts to me until you come back with the previous FR posts on this matter from months ago and the 5 legislative amendments that Ted Cruz submitted in the immigration reform debates.


35 posted on 07/06/2014 1:44:29 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: PoloSec

McVain and Grahamnesty both support Obama relocating those Illegal Alien kids...no one should be fooled

Anything not 100% Deportation is Amnesty


36 posted on 07/06/2014 1:45:30 PM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Haley Barbour gave me $15 to vote)
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To: cripplecreek

The animation should get lots of play. It sums up what is wrong with the Republican party


37 posted on 07/06/2014 2:07:18 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: PoloSec

So many are trying to put the Republican Party out of business, and they may yet succeed in doing so.


38 posted on 07/06/2014 2:25:43 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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Cruz supports letting them stay and has NEVER stated he would deport or support self-deport policies. I challenge you to substantiate any claim to the contrary.

Here you go:

Ted Cruz, a Republican senatorial candidate from Texas, said Monday he thinks presidential candidate Mitt Romney should end President Barack Obama's deferred action policy, going beyond Romney's line that he doesn't need to because he'll fix the problem quickly through Congress.

Asked by Telemundo whether Romney should reinstate deportations of young people granted deferred action, Cruz said, "I do."

America's Voice reaction to the above:
If Cruz wanted to deport DREAMers, then it stands to reason that he wants to deport others. It sounds like he is for deporting as many immigrants as possible, and forbidding the few who get to stay from ever becoming citizens.

39 posted on 07/06/2014 2:26:46 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: PoloSec

Who are the most dangerous people to the Republic:

(1) Republican primary voters in Red Hampshire
(2) Republican primary voters in SC
(3) NYC Democrats
(4) San Francisco Democrats

Clearly: A


40 posted on 07/06/2014 2:27:38 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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