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Cleveland chosen to host 2016 Republican National Convention
http://www.cleveland.com ^ | updated July 08, 2014 at 12:05 PM | Andrew J. Tobias

Posted on 07/08/2014 9:07:07 AM PDT by chrisser

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To: nascarnation

I forgot, too, that Metzenbaum tried to install his son-in-law, Joel Hyatt, into his Senate seat. Had his term expired in 1992 instead of 1994, he might’ve succeeded.


221 posted on 07/11/2014 6:57:19 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: chrisser

It may help win some votes in Ohio.


222 posted on 07/11/2014 7:00:20 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It’s a shame Bricker lost in ‘58. I wasn’t familiar with his rat successor, Stephen Young, sounds like a peach.

A greater shame he wasn’t elected VP in ‘44.

Too bad Lausche wasn’t convinced to switch parties, he sounds ok.


223 posted on 07/11/2014 9:53:58 PM PDT by Impy (Think for yourself)
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To: Impy; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; LS; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy

We lost too many in ‘58. The biggest Senate fiasco in the popular vote era.

Young was a leftist moonbat, and a pretty nasty piece of work (probably enhanced by senility, for which we see a lot of these days in the Senate) and ‘64 saved his butt, at least for the general (curiously, this was where John Glenn announced his run to challenge Young from the right, but withdrew after his household accident — obvious fears that Young wouldn’t be able to hold the seat against Taft, Jr., who was the nominee that year). Curiously, had Taft won, it’s possible his seniority might’ve saved him in 1976, but perhaps not.

Of course, when Lausche was in the Senate in the ‘50s, there were still Conservative Democrats and you could get elected appealing to socially Conservative White working-class ethnics within the party (at least in the north). That’s gone now. It didn’t work for Lausche anymore when he ran for a 3rd term in 1968, as the moonbat element was already taking over (he lost the nomination to Jack Gilligan, who would lose to RINO Saxbe, only to parlay his exposure to run for Governor successfully in 1970).

Lausche, of course, despised the leftist rise in the Democrat party. He detested his seatmate Young (though he apparently got on with Bricker), and refused to endorse Gilligan, either. His best approach would’ve been to have switched parties around 1966, as that might’ve given him a chance to make sufficient inroads to have won the GOP nomination in ‘68 (if Taft or Saxbe had decided to challenge him). Of course, he was 73 then, and age actually mattered to some back then. As it turned out, he lived until almost 95 (dying in 1990). Probably could’ve remained in the Senate until 1980 under the right circumstances (though surviving ‘74 would’ve been tough, especially against Glenn).

I’m sure you also read the speculation that Ike wanted to lure Lausche onto the ‘52 ticket. That would’ve set up a Catholic vs. Catholic scenario in ‘60, since he likely would’ve been the nominee against JFK. It would’ve been funny, since Lausche would’ve had to have chosen a Westerner for the ticket (since there were no Southerners in the GOP beyond a few Congressmen)... so his VP would’ve been Senator Nixon (then 10 years in that office), unless GOP Senate leader Bill Knowland had not made that awful attempt to switch jobs with Gov. Goodwin Knight in ‘58...


224 posted on 07/11/2014 11:03:35 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Impy

IMHO, Portman wants to be a good and supportive father, which by itself is laudable, and perhaps is wondering if he did something wrong and is trying to make up for it. But he’s a team player and I don’t see him making a big deal out of the marriage issue.

As for choosing Cleveland, I suppose they chose it because they thought the facilities and lodging would be good for the delagates.


225 posted on 07/12/2014 10:28:11 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I saw this and thought you might be interested:

http://www.amazon.com/Frank-J-Lausche-Political-Maverick/dp/1882203496


226 posted on 07/12/2014 10:34:58 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

DJ, Ohioans voted for GA Jimmuh in 1976; Ford won ill IL though.


227 posted on 07/12/2014 2:39:27 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: BillyBoy

I don’t think Reagan had any input at all in the choice of the convention in Detroit; it was made by the Bill Brock people, and I know Brock was once “conservative” to a degree.


228 posted on 07/12/2014 2:41:48 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Did not know about the Sebelius history in Kansas, but I always wondered how a Baraqqi regime partisan got in office out there.


229 posted on 07/12/2014 5:17:55 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Looks interesting, thanks.


230 posted on 07/12/2014 5:34:26 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: docbnj
Cleveland is one of the worst crime cities in the country

This has been explained earlier on the thread. Cleveland will be one of the SAFEST places to have the convention! "Downtown" with the stadiums, convention center, Rock Hall, restaurants, hotels, theater district, casino, can be kept secure for a convention. Larger conventions have gotten rave reviews from participants.

Can it handle crowds? Of course. It isn't uncommon for there to be an Indians game, a concert at the Q and plays at the same time.

We're not perfect, but we're not Detroit or Newark. Have you ever been to Cleveland?

231 posted on 07/12/2014 5:34:59 PM PDT by grania
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To: Theodore R.

A slip on my part, as it was a paper-thin margin. Just 11,000 votes separated them. If the Maddox voters had gone to Ford, he’d have carried the state. I think the story went that had the election been held a week or two later, Ford would’ve closed the gap nationally. Of course, if he had, and the continuation of RINO mediocrity, we might not have gotten Reagan in 1980.


232 posted on 07/12/2014 5:39:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: nascarnation

It also helped that the KS “Moderate Republicans” (leftist RINOs) sabotaged the Conservative GOP nominee for Governor in 2002, paving the way for her.


233 posted on 07/12/2014 5:40:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: chrisser

Nice of them to hold convention at beginning of summer —
this way after the establishment steals it for Jeb or Mitt there will be plenty time to get a third party up and running


234 posted on 07/12/2014 5:42:49 PM PDT by CharleysPride (A accipitris volatu supra quinque vexillis)
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To: Theodore R.; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; LS; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj
>> I don’t think Reagan had any input at all in the choice of the convention in Detroit; it was made by the Bill Brock people, and I know Brock was once “conservative” to a degree. <<

I'm still baffled why the GOP selected Detriot in 1980, it seems a bit like the RATs deciding to hold their convention in Myrtle Beach, SC.

Even though it was 34 years ago, I think by 1980, Detroit would have had a similar reputation as it has now, as a RAT-infested cesspool. If the point of the convention was indeed to be a "symbolic" representation of how the Carter administration was taking America in the same direction as Detriot, it seems to have worked.

Of course, in that respect, it makes equal sense to have it in Cleveland in 2016:

http://www.citymayors.com/gratis/us_cities_shrinking.html

Cleveland isn't the crime-ridden hellhole that Detroit is, of course (there are a number of popular tourist attractions like the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, as well a very picturesque historic area called the Tremont neighborhood), but the city's population decline and stagnant economic situation is similar.

Fieldmarshaldj's suggestion makes more sense for an Ohio showdown though: having the RATs meet in Cleveland and the GOP meet in Cincinnati.

235 posted on 07/12/2014 5:59:46 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: BillyBoy

Brock would have selected Detroit because he was then the chairman of the RNC. He later tried to return to the Senate from MD.


236 posted on 07/12/2014 8:09:55 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: grania

I spent 24 hours in Cleveland in 2005 and found it attractive. I also was able to drive east to Mentor to the Garfield Home. It won’t be a bad location per se; but Republicans will never win much of anything in Cleveland ever again. It was a Republican town before the New Deal.


237 posted on 07/12/2014 8:12:16 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I understand none of the Tafts were much good except for Robert, Sr., and he even boosted urban renewal, which destroyed low-cost housing in the central cities.


238 posted on 07/12/2014 8:14:45 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Theodore R.

Unfortunately, both parties got on the bandwagon for urban renewal. It sounded like a good idea at the time, but in practice, it ended up destroying countless inner cities and innumerable historic buildings.


239 posted on 07/12/2014 8:24:58 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I’m sure you also read the speculation that Ike wanted to lure Lausche onto the ‘52 ticket.

Well, it would have made a lot more sense than McCain almost picking Lieberman. I'd like the think the convention would have rejected that choice, if he'd been so foolish as to go through with it.

240 posted on 07/13/2014 1:08:30 AM PDT by Impy (Think for yourself)
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