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Malaysian passenger plane crashes in Ukraine near Russian border: Ifax
Reuters ^ | 17 July 2014 | Alissa de Carbonne

Posted on 07/17/2014 8:24:22 AM PDT by CMB_polarization

A Malaysian passenger airliner with 295 people on board crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border, Interfax cited an aviation industry source as saying on Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; crash; malaysia; malaysianairlines; mh17; mh370; reset; russia; ukraine
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To: Blackyce

this is what happens when you have a pussy for a president that draws imaginary red lines and a sec of state with imaginary friends that give him imaginary hats..

Putin should walk up to the mic, take his shirt off and ask “whacha gonna do?”..


121 posted on 07/17/2014 9:09:59 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: TomGuy
From the UK daily mail:

It is believed the plane was struck by BUK surface-to-air missile at 33,000 ft around 20 miles before entering Russian airspace

122 posted on 07/17/2014 9:10:33 AM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: CMB_polarization

123 posted on 07/17/2014 9:10:33 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: TomGuy

The Caliph is aware what’s going on? That’s news.

He was probably so upset he three-putted.

Prayers for the families.


124 posted on 07/17/2014 9:10:40 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: Dog

Yes, I see, Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur. Boeing 777.


125 posted on 07/17/2014 9:10:52 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Dog
Whats the range on the missiles in post 56?

Any non-portable AA missile system can reach the altitude needed to shoot down an airliner. The Berkut is the crappiest non-portable system fielded by the Russians.

126 posted on 07/17/2014 9:10:55 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Looking at the Malaysia Airlines international route map, the flight was almost certainly headed to Europe.

The flight originated from Amsterdam. Every day MH-17 flies the same route to KL from Amsterdam.

127 posted on 07/17/2014 9:11:31 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Allegedly posted by a passenger before takeoff:

https://twitter.com/Lloyds_Casino/status/489804033994285056


128 posted on 07/17/2014 9:12:15 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: CMB_polarization

Raf Sanchez, our Washington correspondent, sends the following update from the US.

Obama is heading to Delaware and to New York today to talk about the American economy but will also be dealing with is looking like a full-blown international crisis.

He ignored questions from reporters about the Malaysian plane as he walked to his helicopter on the South Lawn of the White House this morning.

Here’s what he said last night about Russian activities in Ukraine:

Along with our allies, with whom I’ve been coordinating closely the last several days and weeks, I’ve repeatedly made it clear that Russia must halt the flow of weapons and fighters across the border into Ukraine; that Russia must urge separatists to release their hostages and support a cease-fire; that Russia needs to pursue internationally-mediated talks and agree to meaningful monitors on the border.

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16.57 More detail on the circumstances of the crash - although it must be stressed that this is only preliminary information.

Interfax-Ukraine quoted another Ukrainian official as saying the plane disappeared from radar when it was flying at 10,000 metres (33,000 feet), a typical cruising altitude for airliners.

It came down at Torez, near Shakhtersk, some 40 km (25 miles) from the Russia border. The area has been the scene of fighting between Ukrainian troops and pro-Russian rebels.

16.56 REUTERS - UKRAINE PRIME MINISTER ORDERS INVESTIGATION INTO MALAYSIAN “AIRPLANE CATASTROPHE”, SAYS PLANE WAS EN ROUTE FROM AMSTERDAM

16.54 Witnesses from the town of Torez in the Donetsk Region told RIA Novosti that plane wreckage and dead bodies have been located in the vicinity. The crash took place near the Hrabovo village, outside Torez.

16.53 Interestingly, Russia Today says that the Ukrainian rebels - backed by Russia - have denied any involvement in the plane crash.

Quote The Donetsk People’s Republic, where fighting continues between Kiev and opposition, has rejected any involvement in the incident, as there are reports that the plane was shot down.

It said its self-defense forces just don’t have such military equipment.

Residents have reported about finding debris from a plane, which they say could belong to the Malaysian Boeing. They also said no bodies have been seen, RIA Novosti reports.

16.52 Russia Today has the following report:

Quote The head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Anton Geraschenko said the plane carrying 285 passengers and 15 crew members fell.

16.50 Reports suggest that the plane was shot down by a surface-to-air missile called a BUK.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10974050/Malaysia-Airlines-plane-crashes-on-Ukraine-Russia-border-live.html


129 posted on 07/17/2014 9:12:57 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: FrankR

I’d book a flight on Malaysian Air tomorrow.

I mean, come on, what are the odds of 3 in a row.

Or maybe, Air Force One could be leased out to Malaysian Air.


130 posted on 07/17/2014 9:13:15 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: lodi90
Yes, I know the Ukrainians have been shooting down their own planes in order to blame Russia for this. 3 or 4 in past two days I believe.

According to the Pentagon, the Ukrainian cargo plane that was shot down on Monday was hit by a missile shot from within Russia.

131 posted on 07/17/2014 9:13:45 AM PDT by kabar
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To: CMB_polarization

First thought ... Surface to air missile from the Libya/Syria pipeline.


132 posted on 07/17/2014 9:13:50 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: lodi90

‘rebel’?

Vlad ain’t gonna like being called that..

Oh, you mean the Ukrainian neanderthal militants?

me bad.


133 posted on 07/17/2014 9:14:03 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: XRdsRev

BOOK missile system? Shoulder fired missile isn’t capable of taking down a 777 at 35K ft.....but a surface to air missile certainly is.


134 posted on 07/17/2014 9:14:38 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: CMB_polarization

Anton Gerashenko, an adviser to Ukraine’s interior minister, said on his Facebook page the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 metres when it was hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher. A similar launcher was seen by Associated Press journalists near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier Thursday. The Buk missile system can fire missiles up to an altitude of 22,000 metres.

Malaysia Airlines said on its Twitter feed that it “has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace. More details to follow.”

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/malaysian-jetliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-official-1.1918209#ixzz37k8K7JlR


135 posted on 07/17/2014 9:14:44 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kabar

RE: The flight originated from Amsterdam. Every day MH-17 flies the same route to KL from Amsterdam.

Does it fly from KL to Amsterdam?


136 posted on 07/17/2014 9:15:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: A'elian' nation

What are the odds of TWO in a row?


137 posted on 07/17/2014 9:15:27 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Brilliant! I’m going to steal that.


138 posted on 07/17/2014 9:15:30 AM PDT by bluetick
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To: kcvl

Wreckage pic:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bswji2hCIAAot9z.jpg:large


139 posted on 07/17/2014 9:15:39 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: CMB_polarization
Networks are already implying that Russia is behind this.

I dislike Putin as much as the next Freeper. Still, he may also may be the most shrewd politician on the planet right now, as in evidence of continuing to make our POTUS look like the idiot he is. Putin would know an act like shooting down a civilian jumbo jet would be a be huge negative in PR on the world stage. I don't think the Russian government is behind it.

I am more leaning toward this being from an Islamic extremist. this has been their mo before.

140 posted on 07/17/2014 9:15:42 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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