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Malaysian passenger plane crashes in Ukraine near Russian border: Ifax
Reuters ^ | 17 July 2014 | Alissa de Carbonne

Posted on 07/17/2014 8:24:22 AM PDT by CMB_polarization

A Malaysian passenger airliner with 295 people on board crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border, Interfax cited an aviation industry source as saying on Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; crash; malaysia; malaysianairlines; mh17; mh370; reset; russia; ukraine
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To: brothers4thID

If Russian Air Defense AND offense - no matter how it’s divvied up amongst various heinous protagonists as mercs -
can’t tell a big-ass Commercial jet from a Ukraine cargo:

Russia has been reduced to laughingstock of the Military, Aviation and terrorist-recruiting world.


801 posted on 07/17/2014 10:57:47 PM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: tcrlaf

More flip comments over dead Americans.


802 posted on 07/17/2014 10:59:40 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: txhurl

It was probably some Russian hothead. A mistake. Still funny to watch the Russians twist themselves into pretzels over it.


803 posted on 07/17/2014 10:59:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: brothers4thID

Gentlemen, at ease. If you’re a Freeper getting off a long shift or off a long-haul flight and looking for information, the last thing you want to do is sort through 200+ posts of y’all bickering.

So, stand down. There are several of us working on analysis and information dissemination and we don’t feel like dodging your flak.

FRegards

-THANK YOU...


804 posted on 07/17/2014 11:00:17 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Very interesting short audio conversation recorded with a Major..Worth a listen....

“These are Chernukin folks who shot down that plane”......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0fRHv—JiY


805 posted on 07/17/2014 11:02:55 PM PDT by caww
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To: free_life

“More flip comments over dead Americans.”

As usual, you get it completely wrong...

300 people are DEAD, and it doesn’t matter what country they are from. What matters is finding out the truth about what happened, something the Kiev trolls are obviously desperate to spin. They/YOU are trying HARD, yet again, to control the language of this event, or to completely divert from it.

We won’t know exactly what happened until either the Black Box is released, or Russian/US Intel release what they have, which you can bet good money on, which is every single step of what happened.

How does a call between the Rebels on scene and the Commanders get “Leaked” so fast???


806 posted on 07/17/2014 11:05:59 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Here is one very clear thing ... it is evident what side I stand with and what side you stand with, one American ... one Russian. So keep up with your jokes about the 300 hundred dead and the suffering of the Ukrainian people and meet your fate with God.


807 posted on 07/17/2014 11:06:12 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: 1rudeboy

It was either a mistake or a Chechnyan cat ran up on the BUK as a tech and messed with that laser targeting.

I go with mistake. Witness nobody upset about it, nobody up in arms, but Putin must pay nonetheless. You don’t make Airliners collateral damage and just get away with it with ‘oops’.


808 posted on 07/17/2014 11:08:09 PM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: brothers4thID

Very interesting short audio conversation recorded ..apparently among those on the ground..Worth a listen....

“These are Chernukin folks who shot down that plane”......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0fRHv—JiY


809 posted on 07/17/2014 11:09:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf
300 people are DEAD, and it doesn’t matter what country they are from.

Oh it matters very much which country they are from, something you wouldn't understand with your soviet thinking.

810 posted on 07/17/2014 11:10:23 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: tcrlaf; All

LifeNews footage of the crash scene.

WARNING: The gruesome parts of this vid are blurred, but still there. CNN is showing this same video, right NOW, with the graphic parts blurred.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfsV7ZcF2oI#t=77


811 posted on 07/17/2014 11:10:47 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

It wasn’t leaked....they posted it, along with video.
Get with the program, and get off the RT spin machine.


812 posted on 07/17/2014 11:12:03 PM PDT by KOZ.
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To: tcrlaf

“Why are YOU supporting Ethnic Cleansing?”

You’re arguments are getting worse.

Why do you support a Russian takeover of a sovereign nation?

You continue to run away from that very question with useless posts.


813 posted on 07/17/2014 11:15:09 PM PDT by KOZ.
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To: free_life

“Oh it matters very much which country they are from,”

Only to a Ukrainian troll desperate for foreign intervention to save them from the looming military defeat, and impending financial ruin, caused by the coup they don’t want to admit was actually a coup.

IF THE COUP HAD NEVER HAPPENED, if the early elections that had already been called for had been followed through on, there wouldn’t be a civil war, there wouldn’t be 300 dead in a shot down airplane, thousands of Ukrainians wouldn’t be dead, and a Ukrainian Flag would still be flying over Crimea....


814 posted on 07/17/2014 11:15:39 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Gen. Kevin Ryan, the director of the Defense and Intelligence Project at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, said:

“Both Russia and Ukraine have such SAM systems in their inventories,” .........”It seems unlikely that the self-defense forces could’ve used Buk surface-to-air missile systems to down the Malaysian plane, .......“It takes a lot of training and a lot of coordination to fire one of these and hit something,” ....he told CNN.

“This is not the kind of weapon a couple of guys are going to pull out of a garage and fire.”


815 posted on 07/17/2014 11:16:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

These are Chernukin folks who shot down that plane”......


What’s the difference between Chernukin and Chechnian?


816 posted on 07/17/2014 11:16:59 PM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: caww

Here you go, in case you missed what the entire world is reporting:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696389/That-blast-look-smoke-Sick-boast-laughing-rebels-saw-MH17-hit-missile-hours-leader-boasted-We-warned-not-fly-sky.html

Exactly, it is not an easily operated weapon, which is why the rest of the free world is coming to the conclusion that it was Russian military. Do you get that yet?


817 posted on 07/17/2014 11:18:12 PM PDT by KOZ.
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To: caww

““This is not the kind of weapon a couple of guys are going to pull out of a garage and fire.””

As I said, to assume that no one, in a country with compulsory military service, or of the AA Regiment members that went over to the rebels after they seized the AA Base, could not operate this is simply a fantasy, IMH,UO...

I have been talking about the Rebel BUK’s for more than TWO WEEKS, and there are numerous pics and vids of them in rebel hands on both Twitter and Youtube.


818 posted on 07/17/2014 11:21:19 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

While the trolls are busy trolling, AGAIN I’ll ask, what comes next??

Malaysia Airlines Crash: UN Security Council Sets Urgent Meeting on Ukraine
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/malaysia-airlines-crash-un-security-council-sets-urgent-meeting-on-ukraine-560643

The UN Security Council will hold an emergency meeting today morning on Ukraine.

Britain’s UN Mission said yesterday it requested the meeting and later tweeted that it is set for 10 am today.


819 posted on 07/17/2014 11:24:19 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
History of 10 previews flight paths via recorded history at flightaware:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS17/history/20140717/1000Z/EHAM/WMKK


820 posted on 07/17/2014 11:30:00 PM PDT by caww
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