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Report: 6 Tested in NYC Tested for Ebola; News Withheld from Public
Breitbart TV ^ | August 4, 2014

Posted on 08/05/2014 5:50:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
News withheld from public

...by none other than everyone's known duplicitous liar....

41 posted on 08/05/2014 7:48:14 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Minsc
Ebola Zaire is the only strain that has been known to go airborne and that was ONE test and has not been independently verified.

Zaire ebola virus is not a strain, it is a sub-species (EBOV). The virus manifest during the current outbreak is a strain; moreover we don't have to guess at the case fatality rate for this strain, it is derived easily from the case data and has consistently been around 56%. The Canadian observation was not well controlled and there could be other explanations. BTW, the Reston ebola virus (RESTV) sub-species has similar anectdotal evidence for airborne transmission, but again it was an observation made under poorly controlled conditions that permitted other avenues of infection (cross contamination).

42 posted on 08/05/2014 7:52:36 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: TomGuy
This is turning into another 'which liar do you want to believe' situation:

I don't think there are any liars, it is complicated. See [Bausch, et. al., Assessment of the Risk of Ebola Virus Transmission from Bodily Fluids and Fomites, Journal of Infectious Diseases, Volume 196, Issue Supplement 2, Pp. S142-S147] for a detailed discussion.

When a viurs replicates, it eventually leaves the infected cell/tissue; this is called shedding. How concentrated it is in any particular cell/tissue is highly variable, and how this correlates with symptom severity is variable as well. So, you could have in one case someone who is infected by briefly brushing up against someone's exposed skin who beats the odds and gets infected, because the diseased person was shedding at the just the right time, and because the person who brushed against them was susceptible (broken skin).

On the other hand, you could have someone working with infected persons closely, who never gets infected. I've worked with dangerous pathogens, and chemical agents, and it only takes one little mistake to get exposed. I once got several million toxic doses of tetrodotoxin dumped on me (beaker got bumped and spilled in my lap), but no broken skin, so no symptoms. Could just as easily have been dead in seconds. It is the nature of the beast, and it is not a simple black and white always this or always that. Best to err on the side of caution.

43 posted on 08/05/2014 8:17:24 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1st the CIA developed the AIDs virus to wipe out Africa, it didn’t work, so now they made the Ebola virus. s/ I can see it coming via the Conspiracy nuts.


44 posted on 08/05/2014 8:38:46 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2016! Really??? That's Retarded Sir.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bushmeat Sold on Open Market in U.S.
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/IntoTheWild/bushmeat-africa-sold-open-market-us/story?id=9312518

Bushmeat in NYC!
http://www.earthtimes.org/health/bushmeat-nyc/1757/

***********Didn’t ebola jump from monkeys and other animals to humans? Confucius say: Man who savor bushmeat play Russian Roulet


45 posted on 08/05/2014 8:50:26 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-08-05/ba-suspends-sierre-leone-and-liberia-flights-over-ebola/


46 posted on 08/05/2014 8:52:10 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Pit1

Well I feel so much better now about the whole thing.


47 posted on 08/05/2014 8:54:12 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: LambSlave

You state that you worked with dangerous pathogens before.

Could you explain your 56% mortality rate please. Are you using total number of cases reported which includes all those suspected of having contracted Ebola and lab verified cases?

Using only the verifiable lab cases, a smaller number and total deaths one comes up with a number in the mid and high 80 % range, consistent with the upper range for the ZEbola.


48 posted on 08/05/2014 9:05:46 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: normbal

I heard that Ebola has a 21 day incubation period. If this is true.......it aint good. Time to go to the cabin till this blows over.


49 posted on 08/05/2014 9:09:11 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Well, seems that Dr. Sanjay Gupta, Deepacked Chopra wannabe, is at odds with the published warnings issued by WHO-Africa.

What precautions should I take? Avoid contact with Ebola patients and their bodily fluids, the WHO advises.

Do not touch anything - such as shared towels - which could have become contaminated in a public place.

Washing hands and improving hygiene is one of the best ways to fight the virus

Carers should wear gloves and protective equipment, such as masks, and wash their hands regularly.

The WHO also warns against consuming raw bushmeat and any contact with infected bats or monkeys and apes. Fruit bats in particular are considered a delicacy in the area of Guinea where the outbreak started.

In March, Liberia's health minister advised people to stop having sex, in addition to existing advice not to shake hands or kiss. The WHO says men can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to seven weeks after recovering from Ebola.

A BBC reporter in the Liberian capital Monrovia says that public awareness campaigns around Ebola have been stepped up following the death in July of renowned Liberian doctor Samuel Brisbane.

Liberia has now closed schools, most of its border crossings and communities hit by an Ebola outbreak face quarantine to try to halt the spread of the virus

50 posted on 08/05/2014 9:11:46 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Adder

Ebola is a viral hemorrhagic fever not a respiratory virus. The mortality rate in West Africa for this Ebola outbreak is 55.3% (887 deaths out of 1603 cases.)


51 posted on 08/05/2014 9:19:46 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: TomGuy

Ebola is transmitted through direct contact with bodily fluids. It is important to note, however, that the virus can and does survive on surfaces for a couple of days. So one can contract Ebola from contaminated surfaces.


52 posted on 08/05/2014 9:32:36 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Covenantor

I’m not doing this professionally, just out of curiousity. Yes, I was using the suspected cases rather than lab confirmed, since earlier in the outbreak it was necessary due to small sample size. Of course there is the error that you are getting some cases of lassa (and others) thrown in the mix, but from what I recall from WHO’s methodology, suspected means Ebola as the primary diagnosis so it seems reasonable. I haven’t run the numbers for confirmed cases, but if it is that much difference then the cause for the disparity would need to be nailed down.


53 posted on 08/05/2014 9:32:58 AM PDT by LambSlave
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54 posted on 08/05/2014 9:33:47 AM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: Covenantor; LambSlave

http://www.afro.who.int/en/clusters-a-programmes/dpc/epidemic-a-pandemic-alert-and-response/outbreak-news/4239-ebola-virus-disease-west-africa-4-august-2014.html

The mortality rate in West Africa as of yesterday is 55.3% of confirmed, probable, and suspect cases. (887 of 1603)


55 posted on 08/05/2014 9:38:26 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Covenantor
comes up with a number in the mid and high 80 % range

You (incorrectly) assumed that the reported deaths are only those resulting from confirmed cases to get the 80%+ figure; this is NOT the case. You would have to find a data source for deaths only in the confirmed cases, I have not seen this data published by WHO or CDC. I stand by my assertion that the ~56% rate is correct for this outbreak, unless someone can show me a breakdown of the subset of deaths for confirmed cases vs all suspected cases.

56 posted on 08/05/2014 9:38:59 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Thanks Buckeye, that 55.3% is the same number I came up with.


57 posted on 08/05/2014 9:40:00 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: LambSlave

That’s ok, I’ve done the ‘rithmatic for you.

Using the laboratory confirmed ebola cases and deaths by my calculations the mortality rate is:

Aug 01 887/1009=87.90%

July 30 826/953 = 86.67%

July 27 729/909 = 80.19%


58 posted on 08/05/2014 9:43:18 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Possible case in Columbus Ohio.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/08/05/Health-officials-investigate-possible-case-of-Ebola-in-Columbus.html


59 posted on 08/05/2014 9:43:43 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Covenantor
That’s ok, I’ve done the ‘rithmatic for you.

The numerator in your figures is for ALL suspected cases, and hence incorrect. For example, for August 1, there were 887 deaths for all suspected cases of Ebola. You would need to find the number of deaths corresponding to the subset of cases that were laboratory confirmed, which would be much smaller.

60 posted on 08/05/2014 9:46:11 AM PDT by LambSlave
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