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Can a Third Party be Formed Without Helping Democrats Win?
Barb Wire ^ | August 5, 2014 | Steve Baldwin

Posted on 08/05/2014 3:58:48 PM PDT by Eagle Forgotten

When one speaks with fellow Republicans about the future of the GOP, it is common to receive some negative feedback. This is because many conservative/libertarian Republicans feel the party has simply not done enough to challenge the Obama agenda. There is a widespread feeling among the rank and file that the country is hurtling toward socialism while Republican leaders sit on the sidelines and either do nothing or propose ways to manage socialism more effectively.

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I have given up on the GOP and am simply not sure it can ever be reformed.

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For a Third Party to be effective, millions of voters need to join it, become active, recruit others and support its candidates. Moreover, millions of dollars would need to be raised to market the party and fight for ballot access changes. I propose that a website be set up that collects pledges. By that, I mean a person would log on, register themselves, and then electronically sign a “pledge” that commits him or her to vote for a Third Party when the party officially launches. Of course, such a pledge cannot be legally binding, but I doubt most voters would go through the process of registering themselves online unless they were serious. Of course, there would be some fraud, but that would be factored in when determining how much support the new party has.

The when part is the key to this effort. When the number of pledges reaches, say, twenty million voters nationwide, only then does the party launch and actually field candidates. The same kind of tactic could be used to raise money for the new party. When contribution pledges reaches, say, $50 million dollars, the party launches. No more feeble third parties that get 1% of the vote.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; republicans; thirdparty
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To: wku man
I don't agree with everything you listed, but I think you might have the right idea of getting control of the media and the message.

Maybe we need both of our approaches. The boycotts and selective patronizing to put the money in the hands of the companies and states that agree with us, and then using that leverage to accomplish some of what you said.

121 posted on 08/06/2014 3:42:18 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: COBOL2Java

I reject the notion we can establish a 3rd party in time to save America.

Give us a model or strategy that proves me wrong.


122 posted on 08/06/2014 4:32:44 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry
I reject the notion we can establish a 3rd party in time to save America.

Nice straw man you have there. Who is advocating a 3rd party?

123 posted on 08/06/2014 5:34:37 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

And if they are being positioned for that, the primary is the place to vote against them being the candidate.

Whether we are tired of who the GOP puts forth is irrelevant, as I will NOT vote for a Democrat but I sure want the Democrats out, period.

You can troll all you want to stop conservatives from voting, but some will have sense enough to keep out the Democrats.


124 posted on 08/06/2014 5:50:43 AM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...Time to honor it....be a Patriot.)
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To: Eagle Forgotten

Not yet.


125 posted on 08/06/2014 6:32:25 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Kackikat

I won’t vote for a democrat either. I never said I would. What I said, along with many others, is that I will never again vote for a RINO. Like others have said, I held my nose and voted for the GOPe chosen ones, never again.

Neither will I vote for a candidate that committed election fraud in a primary against a conservative.

If you lived in Pennsylvania in 2009, would you have voted for RINO-Republican Arlen Specter (shortly before he switched parties)? Guess what, any vote for a RINO is a vote for a democrat; some are just more honest about it!


126 posted on 08/06/2014 7:10:18 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
One candidate got more votes then the other?

That's why I can't take you GOPe types seriously.

So you approve of McConnell and Conryn using GOP donations to fund attack adds calling McDaniel, and the TEA Party, Racist?

You support the GOPe bribing democrat preachers to encourage their flock to “cross the aisles” in a primary to vote against the conservative (even though they won't vote for Cochran)?

And you wonder why your party is losing conservatives. You guys must love defeat!

127 posted on 08/06/2014 7:16:26 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: COBOL2Java

Hey strawman!
What’s your solution?

Stay home?


128 posted on 08/06/2014 7:37:27 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Kackikat

You can troll all you want to stop conservatives from voting, but some will have sense enough to keep out the Democrats.


When did I tell anyone what to do? I simply said I won’t vote for the treasonous wing of the GOP.

Do you really expect any conservative to believe the GOPe supports us? They’ve “got our back” alright.

Tell you what, Kackikat, if you want conservative votes stop backstabbing, undermining and betraying your base. You jokers have been smashing away at the foundation then you get angry when your house begins to collapse.


129 posted on 08/06/2014 7:40:09 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: G Larry; COBOL2Java

Hey strawman!
What’s your solution?

Stay home?


One solution would be for the party to quit crapping on it’s conservative base. Do you agree, Larry?

Regardless, those involved in Mississippi’s election fraud must go.


130 posted on 08/06/2014 7:49:40 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

These GOP cheerleaders are either hopeless cases or paid trolls. It really isn’t worth debating them. Let them vote for the back stabbers and continue their descent towards Gomorrah.


131 posted on 08/06/2014 8:17:31 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

No!

That’s an OBJECTIVE!

A “solution” would be a PATH to that objective.

Our Conservative County is teaching the GOPe they aren’t in charge anymore.

You must get involved locally and responsibly.


132 posted on 08/06/2014 8:20:50 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: COBOL2Java

It’s funny how they accuse US of being the trolls. How many have accused you of “telling people to vote democrat” or “telling people not to vote?”

I keep correcting them over and over; I think I’ll build a word document so I can simply copy and paste.

They’re pathetic.

If the party wants voters then the party has to start representing the voters.


133 posted on 08/06/2014 8:25:48 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The current “Constitution Party” is anything but hawkish on national security. It pretty much follows the line of the John Birch Society, which is now referring to grass roots supporters of our troops as “red state fascists” and is now calling on people to stop supporting the troops altogether.


134 posted on 08/06/2014 8:27:30 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: G Larry; COBOL2Java

Tell you what, Larry. When I see Cornyn and McConnel in tar and feathers I’ll be ready to listen to what the GOP has to say.

In the mean time I’ll support the likes of Ted Cruz and Trey Gowdy.

Does that sound fair?


135 posted on 08/06/2014 8:29:43 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

It’s like my tagline. I’ve kept it for a long time now, because it just makes so, so much sense...


136 posted on 08/06/2014 8:31:24 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

True


137 posted on 08/06/2014 8:32:28 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: wku man

My favorite is “Liberal Girl” ;’)


138 posted on 08/06/2014 10:56:22 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
That's the big question, isn't it? You have to start somewhere, and right now, apparently its just me. Limbaugh hits all around it often, but none of the other talk hosts out there seem to have a clue, or they're outright hostile to the very thought of anything having to do with arts and entertainment. I've pounded on all the big name talk hosts, and the local guys here in Boise, but I have no idea if my e-mails and letters are even getting past the secretaries and/or producers. I'm not going to stop, though...I believe in what I'm doing.

Maybe if people would help me spread the word, others would join exponentially. But right now, it's pretty lonely out here, beating the drum all by myself.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

139 posted on 08/06/2014 1:02:42 PM PDT by wku man (Veterans, it's up to us to save the Republic...let's roll.)
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To: rockrr
Thanks! That one was actually recorded in a local studio, so it sounds a lot better than the rest.

And yes, I have a major crush on Molly Line of Fox News. Call me, Molly!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

140 posted on 08/06/2014 1:24:01 PM PDT by wku man (Veterans, it's up to us to save the Republic...let's roll.)
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