Posted on 08/06/2014 5:10:19 AM PDT by cotton1706
Pat Roberts won his primary, with more of the Republican electorate voting against him than for him.
And his opponent was a virtual unknown. If conservative legislator or congressman had stepped up to the plate, Roberts would have been crushed!
And look at the Establishment victory trend this year:
Cornyn and McConnell: 60%
Lindsey Graham: 56%
Thad Cochran: 50% (with democrats)
Pat Roberts: 48%
The Establishment grip on the US Senate is weakening, with LOTS of RINOS up for reelection in 2016.
I'm predicting a number of retirements.
But let's deal with Lamar Alexander first!
And I’ll say this - Roberts isn’t as bad as Graham or Alexander or Cochran. I like Milton Wolf and certainly wanted him to win though.
Wow, I hadn't heard his percentage.
The Tea Party is far from over, the hard numbers show that is a fact, we may change the GOP yet, if not now than... Progressively.
I look for the stock market to begin diving. It has to be dawning on the Chamber of Commerce now that their days of being able to march up K Street and buy whatever they want are just about over.
Expect the GOPe to understand that when faced with a strong conservative primary opponent, they win if another option or two is also on the ballot. They will make sure that their opposition is diffused in future primaries, even if they have to finance a siphon-candidate themselves.
I’m disappointed that Wolf didn’t make the cut. He may have but for his stupid facebook photos. I supported Wolf because Roberts, whom I have supported in the past, is showing his age (78). While he has been a pretty solid conservative vote, he has been far less than effective as an articulate advocate for conservative positions. He is intellectually unsteady, verbally clumsy and, if truth be told, showing early signs of Cochran-itis. We needed a more energetic and articulate champion of conservative ideas if we are to sway others to the cause. Roberts won’t get that done, I’m afraid.
Its still so frustrating that we can’t primary these old RINO bulls out to pasture. If not now__when?
“we may change the GOP yet, if not now than... Progressively.”
Right. And look at the ratings of those up for reelection next time:
Lee (UT) - 2016 - 100% (Average) - 100% (Heritage) - 100% (CFG) - 100% (ACU) - 100% (FreedomWorks)
Paul (KY) - 2016 - 97% (Average) - 96% (Heritage) - 97% (CFG) - 96% (ACU) - 100% (FreedomWorks)
Rubio (FL) - 2016 - 92% (Average) - 87% (Heritage) - 91% (CFG) - 96% (ACU) - 95% (FreedomWorks)
Crapo (ID) - 2016 - 89% (Average) - 79% (Heritage) - 92% (CFG) - 88% (ACU) - 95% (FreedomWorks)
Coburn (OK) - 2016 - 88% (Average) - 81% (Heritage) - 93% (CFG) - 100% (ACU) - 76% (FreedomWorks)
Johnson (WI) - 2016 - 87% (Average) - 89% (Heritage) - 87% (CFG) - 96% (ACU) - 77% (FreedomWorks)
Grassley (IA) - 2016 - 86% (Average) - 82% (Heritage) - 86% (CFG) - 88% (ACU) - 86% (FreedomWorks)
Toomey (PA) - 2016 - 85% (Average) - 76% (Heritage) - 93% (CFG) - 80% (ACU) - 91% (FreedomWorks)
Vitter (LA) - 2016 - 81% (Average) - 75% (Heritage) - 78% (CFG) - 79% (ACU) - 91% (FreedomWorks)
Shelby (AL) - 2016 - 76% (Average) - 76% (Heritage) - 82% (CFG) - 76% (ACU) - 68% (FreedomWorks)
Coats (IN) - 2016 - 73% (Average) - 70% (Heritage) - 75% (CFG) - 83% (ACU) - 65% (FreedomWorks)
Thune (SD) - 2016 - 73% (Average) - 65% (Heritage) - 80% (CFG) - 88% (ACU) - 59% (FreedomWorks)
Moran (KS) - 2016 - 72% (Average) - 66% (Heritage) - 75% (CFG) - 80% (ACU) - 67% (FreedomWorks)
Burr (NC) - 2016 - 70% (Average) - 62% (Heritage) - 67% (CFG) - 84% (ACU) - 67% (FreedomWorks)
Boozman (AR) - 2016 - 69% (Average) - 71% (Heritage) - 70% (CFG) - 80% (ACU) - 55% (FreedomWorks)
Ayotte (NH) - 2016 - 67% (Average) - 57% (Heritage) - 79% (CFG) - 68% (ACU) - 64% (FreedomWorks)
Portman (OH) - 2016 - 64% (Average) - 57% (Heritage) - 71% (CFG) - 64% (ACU) - 64% (FreedomWorks)
Blunt (MO) - 2016 - 59% (Average) - 57% (Heritage) - 67% (CFG) - 71% (ACU) - 41% (FreedomWorks)
Kirk (IL) - 2016 - 55% (Average) - 44% (Heritage) - 74% (CFG) - 44% (ACU) - 59% (FreedomWorks)
Isakson (GA) - 2016 - 54% (Average) - 54% (Heritage) - 59% (CFG) - 54% (ACU) - 50% (FreedomWorks)
McCain (AZ) - 2016 - 54% (Average) - 43% (Heritage) - 71% (CFG) - 52% (ACU) - 48% (FreedomWorks)
Hoeven (ND) - 2016 - 51% (Average) - 44% (Heritage) - 58% (CFG) - 60% (ACU) - 41% (FreedomWorks)
Murkowski (AK) - 2016 - 41% (Average) - 36% (Heritage) - 52% (CFG) - 38% (ACU) - 36% (FreedomWorks)
geez, how do we get this guy voted out
when?
When there is a dynamic, charismatic young candidate with more than just ideology going .
Being an idealog is inadequate in a statewide national race...... unless you are Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz.
His (or her) first task is to overwhelm the ideologues and get them out of the competition. They are the principle problem.
Now that Roberts has survived the primary, he will easily win reelection. The assumption is that this will be his last term and we can expect that he will pay even less attention to Kansas than he has in the past. His vote ratings will revert to their pre election year range, much less conservative than his vote of the past 18 months or so. He will support the current leadership and deliver a reliable vote for whatever they may choose to some. Some people in Kansas may even agree with him, not that it will matter.
He got a crappy result no doubt, but he still won. If we fail to unseat Lamar! then incumbents will have had their best year in over a decade in terms of getting re-elected. With this country dissolving before our eyes under the Mooslim in chief, it is tragic that even Republican voters appear to be low-information voters
So this was an open primary to allow D'rats to crossover and support Roberts?
“So this was an open primary to allow D’rats to crossover and support Roberts?”
As I understand it, no, Kansas has a closed primary. Which brings up another issue. I’d love to see massive victories in state legislatures in November, and one of their priorities should be to disallow open primaries.
I think your response is right on the money - and yes, I think the Facebook photos really hurt. Without those, he would have gotten more money and more high profile support early, and I think his late charge would have then put him over the top.
Coming from as far back as he did, the late charge just made it close.
If conservative legislator or congressman had stepped up to the plate, Roberts would have been crushed!
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Well, that is the exact scenario we have in the TN Primary coming up tomorrow. We’ll see if your hypothesis proves true. I sure hope so.
Maybe these people new to the scene should be campaigning for HOR nominations to start out.
I look for the stock market to begin diving.
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I tend to agree with you and am expecting a sell off. But...the Fed isn’t going to allow it to plunge sharply IMHO. Overall the economy is weak; a serious blow to the market and the resulting impact on the “wealth effect” would be devastating. I’m not supporting the Fed. Just recognizing the reality that it manipulates the markets; its what they do day in and day out.
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