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'This Is Not Open For Discussion' — Massive SWAT Team Tells Peaceful Protesters In Ferguson To Leave
Business Insider ^ | 08/13/2014 | Paul Szoldra

Posted on 08/13/2014 4:52:35 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

A large police SWAT team showed up to a peaceful demonstration in Ferguson, Missouri and the scene is getting increasingly tense, reports Huffington Post's Ryan J. Reilly, who is currently on the ground.

Soon after the team of more than 70 officers came on the scene, they told protesters they needed to leave the area and that "this [was] not open for discussion," Reilly tweeted. MSNBC reporter Trymain Lee tweeted that police told the crowd, "Go home, return to your vehicles. The protesters responded, "Mike can't go home!"

"Your right to assembly is not being denied," the police said later over a loudspeaker.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ferguson; mikebrown; nationofislam; newblackpanthers; policestate; stlouis
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Not good ... The arrest, if went down as was in the article, was illegal.


301 posted on 08/13/2014 9:16:22 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: antidisestablishment

But this people are woefully ignorant of history and/or think that it does not apply here and cannot happen here.

The history of Marxist Oligarchies and dictatorships and what they do to their political enemies once they have secured themselves in power is no secret.

Somehow this people think it cannot happen here because some of us are armed.

Without the will a gun might as well be a garden hose.


302 posted on 08/13/2014 9:17:05 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: lastchance

Good observations


303 posted on 08/13/2014 9:18:55 PM PDT by Ray76 (Nationally: Re-elect No One)
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Reading of multiple arrests (10+) tonight but have no idea of accuracy of info.


304 posted on 08/13/2014 9:20:06 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: dragnet2

Just the same thing that you read. He said there was a struggle inside his car and the guy reached for his gun after pushing him back into his patrol car.

Maybe it’s the truth. I don’t know.


305 posted on 08/13/2014 9:21:49 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
None of us know what happened that led to the incident.

I don't know why not.

They have all the witness statements, they have a ton of physical evidence, blood, GSR, spent casing, bullet wounds, a body etc..

Considering the above, I cannot imagine what's holding up the completion of the investigation.

This shouldn't be too complex to determine what happened and if someone is providing inconsistent statements etc..

306 posted on 08/13/2014 9:24:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Police telling crowd they “may continue to peacefully assemble 25 feet away” from their vehicles.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble [where the Government's gunthugs tell them they can assemble], and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

307 posted on 08/13/2014 9:25:47 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Ya, I heard that too...But I’d like to see the actual officer involved written statement...A whole lot of details missing here...


308 posted on 08/13/2014 9:29:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BunnySlippers
The Los Angeles Police Department has been heavily militarized for at least two decades. We have battering rams and helicopters flying 24 hours a day.

It’s not surprising. All police recruit heavily from returning military men. At times like this, their maneuvers are straight from military tactics.

You saw the militarization during the capture of the Boston Marathon bombers.

I think it’s natural. Why insist that they are only allowed to use sub-par gear?

F-R-E-E R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C

309 posted on 08/13/2014 9:29:57 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: dragnet2

Details of the initial confrontation are not clear. Was the officer assaulted or was the officer not assaulted? It makes a difference. It doesn’t excuse, it makes a difference. If assaulted s/he was acting on adrenaline when shooting a fleeing assailant, if not... entirely different. It doesn’t excuse, it makes a difference.


310 posted on 08/13/2014 9:30:14 PM PDT by Ray76 (Nationally: Re-elect No One)
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News crews being told to leave the area. A tweet states ... web editor of StLouisAmerican had an assault rifle pointed at her chest by stlcountypd approximately three to five minutes ago.


311 posted on 08/13/2014 9:33:50 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

A guy named Dorian Johnson was with Mike Brown when this happened. I posted a link to a YouTube video of his account of the incident on the first breaking news thread.

Since then he has spoken directly to the media. And what bothers me about him is that his story has changed. He said in the video that Brown was wearing flip flops and so couldn’t run. Pictures of Brown’s body in the street clearly show that he was not wearing flip flops. In the video he said nothing about the cop putting a choke hold on Brown. He’s since added that to his story. In the video he says the cop walked up to Brown while Brown was lying on the street and fired four more times. That has since disappeared from his story.

In my experience, eyewitness testimony is most accurate right after an incident and while details may be massaged somewhat in subsequent re-tellings or some insignificant details added, generally speaking, true stories don’t change much. Not so with Dorian Johnson.

I hope the FBI uses the tried-and-true tactic of having Johnson tell his story backwards to filter out his embellishments. Just like watching someone’s eyes move up and to his left when he’s recalling an actual event or up and to his right if he’s lying, having him tell events from end to beginning reveals the truth unless he is a pathological liar.


312 posted on 08/13/2014 9:34:09 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Ray76

Nothing is clear yet...The cops have only told the media what they want them to hear, and the witnesses are telling them what they allegedly saw.

Again, if the scene evidence was not manipulated or compromised, there has to be a whole lot of scene physical evidence which will reveal what occurred and establish if anyone is providing inconsistent statements...


313 posted on 08/13/2014 9:37:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Ray76

The police chief said today at the press conference that the officer sustained an injury to his face during the physical struggle within/at the vehicle and was later treated at a hospital.


314 posted on 08/13/2014 9:38:44 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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no chance of keeping up with this feed ... lol https://vine.co/v/MYpHZUxOdFJ


315 posted on 08/13/2014 9:40:30 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ferguson, Missouri is a much softer target.

Hopefully some Brady Ranch style patriots are in the mix.


316 posted on 08/13/2014 9:42:41 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Gene Eric

They’re Pretend Sojers...


317 posted on 08/13/2014 9:47:25 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

From Wes Lowery’s account of his arrest:

During this time, we asked the officers for badge numbers. We asked to speak to a supervising officer. We asked why we were being detained. We were told: trespassing in a McDonald’s.

“I hope you’re happy with yourself,” one officer told me. And I responded: “This story’s going to get out there. It’s going to be on the front page of The Washington Post tomorrow.”

And he said, “Yeah, well, you’re going to be in my jail cell tonight.”


318 posted on 08/13/2014 9:51:42 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: no-to-illegals

Law Enforcement is not putting up with the crap tonight. Not even the media. Al Jazeera Media was trying to film the police tonight (No protesters near the Al Jazeera crew) and LE shot off tear gas right at the Al Jazeera crew. (LOL) The crew had to run away fast. KSDK caught video of it, so I’m sure it will be out there some place. Also the media here seems to be more hateful as the hours pass towards LE. The media is getting pissed that they being ran off (for their own protection.)

One batch of LE was rushed by a car this evening and a news reporter was watching LE back up as they knew what was coming but the reporter did not until she saw the car race up towards LE. They news reporter ran her arse off trying to get back to the new van when she saw the car. That ended the news cast and I don’t know what happened after that but I do the reporter checked in later to say she was OK.

Slightly smaller bunch of protesters tonight but they were more bold tonight and more tear gas was shot at them tonight.

I believe this coming weekend is going to be much worse. The protesters are sucking up the national media coverage they are getting. (LE knows this and this why they are trying to run the media out also)


319 posted on 08/13/2014 9:54:45 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

So if there were not rioters or protestors near the media crew, why’d they gas them?


320 posted on 08/13/2014 9:57:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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