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Police: Officer Who Shot Michael Brown Did Not Know He Was a Robbery Suspect (But Brown Did)
The Blaze ^ | Aug. 15, 2014 3:24pm | Madeleine Morgenstern

Posted on 08/15/2014 2:26:10 PM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins
There are imaginable scenarios in which the cop would not be found guilty or an executioner. We still don’t have the policeman’s side of the story.

Absolutely. He probably was justified. My point was that the robbery didn't not authorize the shooting.

61 posted on 08/15/2014 4:29:04 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Let’s just hypothesize that this cop is a bad guy. Sometimes, bad people can do good things. Brown’s death is a blessing. If the government had something to do with Brown’s death, then that means that sometimes government action improves the world. It proves that government can’t be all bad.


62 posted on 08/15/2014 4:35:36 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I know this is off the subject, but look at the pictures in #29, the bottom right picture. That guy had extremely skinny ankles for his height and weight. Like putting a refrigerator on chopsticks.

6’4” and 300+ is a lot of person to try to pull through a window. That part of the witness’ story doesn’t ring true.

We need the police to give the shooter’s version of events. I think they’re making a mistake letting the deceased’s friend(s) define the story.


63 posted on 08/15/2014 4:36:24 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

I think the cop is digging a deep hole to get out of by not making his version of events public.


64 posted on 08/15/2014 4:38:14 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Law enforcement police officers, being the fittest special, tactical, black ops operatives, are there to protect approved, licen$ed, degreed, tax-recirculating civilian$ against the beady-eyed, inherently useless civilians by euthanizing them with all discretion. That’s what Chinese investors in treasuries are paying for.

*Smirk*


65 posted on 08/15/2014 4:40:11 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: xzins
I think the cop is digging a deep hole to get out of by not making his version of events public.

I sincerely doubt that it is his choice to make. It is an ongoing investigation, and while he almost certainly would be anxious to clear his name, there are rules and procedures. Added to that the fact that certain "witnesses" are spinning tales that are simply not credible, at least not to rational people, (trying to pull a 300 pound person through a side window, Gentle Giant on his knees begging for his life, etc.), the police are undoubtedly getting all their ducks in a row before anything significant is released about what happened.

But, fortunately, the non-nonsensical narrative that started this is unraveling at a speed even greater than the Tale of Saint Skittles.
66 posted on 08/15/2014 4:44:21 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (Remember Mississippi -- leave the GOP plantation)
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To: xzins
Since it’s his own police chief who said he didn’t yet know, I’m going with his own chief.

If the call went out on the radio, and it is in the police report, then it is based on the records of the dispatch office.

Dispatch offices are REQUIRED to keep accurate records regarding the timing of calls and dispatches. It's not a game, and they are deadly serious about it.

67 posted on 08/15/2014 4:47:55 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’m assuming the chief talked to cop and asked him.


68 posted on 08/15/2014 4:49:14 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: jjsheridan5
spinning tales

This has become political instead of factual, just like the Trayvon Martin case. You don't want your political opponent to define the other candidate or the issues.

69 posted on 08/15/2014 4:51:12 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

True, but remember that they are staring straight down the barrel of the race pimps and the full wrath of the media. While I agree wholeheartedly that it would be better to get their side out earlier rather than later, they also have to consider (and prepare for) the onslaught of lawsuits and demagoguery. Anything they say now can, and will be, used against them in the months to follow.

I am now 95% convinced that the autopsy showed that Gentle was not moving away from the officer, nor was he kneeling while he was “executed”, but rather he was moving toward the officer, and the final shots were from relatively close distance. If that is the case, then any political damage would be mitigated by a convincing volume of forensic evidence. But mistakes, even trivial ones, have a way of haunting you when the professionally aggrieved get their bite at the apple (which, in this case, is usually someone’s wallet).


70 posted on 08/15/2014 4:58:06 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (Remember Mississippi -- leave the GOP plantation)
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To: stlnative
Great account, and it makes the most sense to me. If it turns out to be a true account, then I believe it is a justifiable homicide and I would fully support the officer.
71 posted on 08/15/2014 4:58:12 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: jjsheridan5

Correct. If he was shot at distance, there will be no powder burns on the shirt. However, if he was shot at close range, there will be powder burns on his shirt and head, plus blood spatter from the wounds will be found on the officer’s uniform, firearm, and possibly the patrol vehicle.


72 posted on 08/15/2014 5:02:59 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: xzins

One other difference from the Martin case. In the Martin case, there was no way that forensic evidence was going to show who started the altercation, which was a primary point of dispute between the media’s story, and the truthful story. Here, the autopsy, and other evidence, should be able to rule in or out, the testimony of Mr. Giant’s peers and accomplices. While I am still somewhat impressed by the ability of the left to simply ignore evidence and logic, which they did in the Martin case, arguing against an autopsy will be beyond even them (well, most of them).


73 posted on 08/15/2014 5:03:21 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (Remember Mississippi -- leave the GOP plantation)
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To: xzins

In these types of situations the only one who does NOT get to talk is the officer. The only people this cop is talking to is the LEOs that are investigating.

There are protocols that police departments follow in these cases. This is not unusual but most likely very standard procedure in most LE agencies.


74 posted on 08/15/2014 5:06:12 PM PDT by conservativegranny
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To: Respond Code Three

I was watching the news ( probably CNN) and a spokesperson for MB family said that the father used to have to “Put a KNEE on Michael’s back” in order to restrain him, and gave other references that he was an irrigable kid to raise.

First of all who forces their kid to the ground, and wow, this spokesperson, must have had other hairy tales to tell of bringing up this headstrong Baby Huey.


75 posted on 08/15/2014 5:07:53 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: xzins; x_plus_one; Patton@Bastogne; Oldeconomybuyer; RightField; aposiopetic; rbmillerjr; ...

The Ron Paul “I hate police and want legalized drug” crowd will be very distressed by this new evidence. Then they will attack. Again.


76 posted on 08/15/2014 5:12:37 PM PDT by narses
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To: Straight Vermonter

You are a Ron Pauler right? Supporting legalized drugs, right?


77 posted on 08/15/2014 5:14:01 PM PDT by narses
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To: xzins
"I think the cop is digging a deep hole to get out of by not making his version of events public."

If he talks against the advice of legal counsel, he would be digging a hole. In many departments, the officer will have a legal representative show up at the scene. One of the things the rep may do is to advise the officer not to make a public statement. Plus, the lawyers defending the Ferguson police in the lawsuits will also tell him not to make public statements.

78 posted on 08/15/2014 5:14:59 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: lulu16

In a lawsuit, that information could very well be used by lawyers defending the officer and the department.


79 posted on 08/15/2014 5:16:50 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: Mariner

He robbed the store and assaulted the proprietor, he assaulted a cop. That makes him a felon. When he fled he became a fleeing felon who, in all likelihood, would assault anyone who got in his way.


80 posted on 08/15/2014 5:17:34 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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